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Please help - Landlord decided to put in a coin meter??

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  • spiro
    spiro Posts: 6,405 Forumite
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    can someone help me i've got a private landlord meter a card 1 and got home today and now he's added the last 2 weeks of rent arrears on to my electric meter and set to take £20 a week off me last time he did this i had to put on £10 a day to clear the debt and then £5 for electric his he allowed to do this and it's set at 34p a unit
    Don't see how he can justify 34p per unit, ask for proof of what he is paying which you are legally entitled to see.

    In terms of putting the rent on the elecricity meter, he can only do this if it is in your tenancy agreement, if it is not then he can not do it.
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  • Mankysteve
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    Joyful wrote: »
    Even Suppliers are not allowed to charge non energy debt at more than £1 a week so I think your Landlord is not acting correctly.

    Where did you get that one from most companies are a minimum of £5 a week?.
  • Joyful
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    Mankysteve wrote: »
    Where did you get that one from most companies are a minimum of £5 a week?.


    The minimum for Energy debt is £3.30 and for Non Energy debt £1. This is for British Gas.
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  • Hi, the Landlord cannot add rent arrears to a gas or electric meter. You should contact his supplier and notify them. You should also advise the Landlord that he cannot add these arrears to the meter.

    The rules on the resale of gad and electric is very clear, the Landlord can only charge the same unit price that the supplier charges to him + VAT at 5%.

    If in any doubt contact the new watchdog Consumer Direct (google them to find their website as im unable to post a link)
  • spiro wrote: »
    Most suppliers charge more for the 1st 125kwh per quarter, as an example BG charge about 24p for the 1st 125 and then about 11p for everything else. If it was a PPM tariff with standing charge it would be about 20p per day then 11p a unit. Sound like you charge is a little high. Remember you are legally entitled to know and have proof of what the landlord is paying. If he refuses to tell you I suspect he is overcharging you.

    Sorry to revive an old thread but I pay 17.85 pence per unit of electric on my £1 meter.

    I get 5.6units of electric for every pound I put in, its a rip off he hasnt put it up in a while but its awkward asking him what he is paying and he always puts me off so where do I go next in dealing with this.

    Currently I am spending £5 a day heating a 2 bedroom flat.

    Surely given that I pay council tax the electric board would come and put my own supply in so I dont have to have this stupid sub meter in. Landlord tells me no it will cost a fortune to have fitted.

    Do you think I am being ripped off with what I am paying per unit? All the other flats pay the same as well. He says he doesnt make a profit.

    Thank you.
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  • spiro
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    Sorry to revive an old thread but I pay 17.85 pence per unit of electric on my £1 meter.

    I get 5.6units of electric for every pound I put in, its a rip off he hasnt put it up in a while but its awkward asking him what he is paying and he always puts me off so where do I go next in dealing with this.

    Currently I am spending £5 a day heating a 2 bedroom flat.

    Surely given that I pay council tax the electric board would come and put my own supply in so I dont have to have this stupid sub meter in. Landlord tells me no it will cost a fortune to have fitted.

    Do you think I am being ripped off with what I am paying per unit? All the other flats pay the same as well. He says he doesnt make a profit.

    Thank you.
    What has you paying council tax got to do with an electricity company fitting a new supply to your flat?
    There is no longer an electricity board in the same way there is no gas board, they ceased to exist in 1998.
    It can cost between a few hundred and 000s of pound to install a new supply., so who do you think is going to pay that? You, the LL?
    If he refuse to prove how much he is paying try speaking to CAB and see what they say.
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  • spiro wrote: »
    What has you paying council tax got to do with an electricity company fitting a new supply to your flat?
    There is no longer an electricity board in the same way there is no gas board, they ceased to exist in 1998.
    It can cost between a few hundred and 000s of pound to install a new supply., so who do you think is going to pay that? You, the LL?
    If he refuse to prove how much he is paying try speaking to CAB and see what they say.

    I wasnt sure I just thought maybe the electric company are not interested but they should be given that this is "separate units"

    Do you think 17.85p per unit is excessive?
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  • HappyMJ
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    I wasnt sure I just thought maybe the electric company are not interested but they should be given that this is "separate units"

    Do you think 17.85p per unit is excessive?
    Yes and No. Both are correct. You are being charged an average rate including the standing charge averaged over all the units and including VAT. It could be right. I would compare to Ebico rates which are 1 rate inclusive of standing charge. Nowhere in the country do they charge more than 14p/kw for electric. However, they are a social tariff and may not suitable for your supply. You could try getting your landlord to switch to Ebico at least you'll know it will be transparent with no markup for the potential low use and relatively high standing charges. At least then you'll get 7kw per £1.
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  • HappyMJ wrote: »
    Yes and No. Both are correct. You are being charged an average rate including the standing charge averaged over all the units and including VAT. It could be right. I would compare to Ebico rates which are 1 rate inclusive of standing charge. Nowhere in the country do they charge more than 14p/kw for electric. However, they are a social tariff and may not suitable for your supply. You could try getting your landlord to switch to Ebico at least you'll know it will be transparent with no markup for the potential low use and relatively high standing charges. At least then you'll get 7kw per £1.

    How does ebico work?
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  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    How does ebico work?
    Just like any other supplier but just one simple rate for electric none of this X for so many kw then X for the rest. It's just a little less than 14p/kw and that's it. They may not supply to a reseller such as your landlord. You and the landlord need to ask them the question.
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    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
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