Various options for an electric only flat?

jk0

whatnext18 wrote: »

I see. I don't know how true it is but the owner is saying it averages out £50 a month with the convection heaters and she works at home.

I suspect she is telling you porkies. I suggest you buy some 2nd hand storage heaters & timeswitches from ebay.

Owain_Moneysaver

whatnext18 wrote: »

I see. I don't know how true it is but the owner is saying it averages out £50 a month with the convection heaters and she works at home.

But you haven't seen the bills, you don't know how warm she keeps the house, and you don't know whether her work involves modelling swimwear or webcamming for TripleLayerSkiWearFetishDotCom.

Carrot007

whatnext18 wrote: »

I see. I don't know how true it is but the owner is saying it averages out £50 a month with the convection heaters and she works at home.

In that case it is probably not an eco7 tariff? Otherwise it should be more expensive if the main usage is not at night?

You should be able to see the tarrif by looking at the meter.


As for £50 a month. Maybe for the heating if it's used lightly!


No idea of the size of your flat though so all guesses! I pay around £110 a month for 4 bed house and I WFH most days. However I do admit to being an above average user for the size of property! That is electric and gas and I'm not sure of the split!

whatnext18

Carrot007 wrote: »

You should be able to see the tarrif by looking at the meter.


As for £50 a month. Maybe for the heating if it's used lightly!


No idea of the size of your flat though so all guesses! I pay around £110 a month for 4 bed house and I WFH most days. However I do admit to being an above average user for the size of property! That is electric and gas and I'm not sure of the split!

It's just a one bed flat about 400sq. ft.


I have seen a very similar flat on the same place where the tenant uses those radiator on wheels and she says she pays £60 a month, which is why I think 50-60 is probably true.


having talked to someone in the trade, it seems like having an electric boiler and radiators can be more complicated than expected because of plumbing requirements.

I wonder if the wet system can heat a flat up better or not?


i also plan to change the vented hot water tank to an unvented one

Scatty

I have an all electric (bar the oven!) house, it's very small but open plan downstairs and up to the bathroom/bedroom. I keep it fairly cool in winter cos I don't want to end up broke and this cold winter just gone I spent on average £2.60 a day. That is with both Rointe electric radiators (not mine, the landlord installed them) on for roughly 5 hours each a day.


The good side to living in my cold house is that my health has never been so good. Go figure!

pooch

whatnext18 wrote: »

When I viewed the flat, there are some plugged in wall panel ones with thermostats.


I googled the model and they appear to be 1200w convection ones

The brand is winterheat and looks like this


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Winterheat-Electric-Conservatrory-Convector-Heater/dp/B00SVDTPPY

Are you saying there are no hot water radiators in the flat?

If not, I don't think you would have an electric boiler.
It sounds like you have an immersion heater. What size tank?

With a suitable sized tank, and the installation of night storage heaters, then moving to an E7 tariff would be best (although for some reason it sounds like you would prefer to pay full price for all of your electricity)

There may be other electrical options that would reduce your ongoing cost still further, but they typically have a high capital cost
(and such unusual systems may make it more difficult to sell the property, or at least adversely affect it's value)

It would also probably be quite easy to adjust the current asking price to take account of the cost of installing night storage heaters (but you probably won't be able to negotiate that for more expensive options)

Carrot007

whatnext18 wrote: »

I wonder if the wet system can heat a flat up better or not?

Probably very slightly less. As it it would cost more than cheap convectors becuase there will be heat loss in the pipes to places you are not wanting to heat.


Nothing significant though. Maybe 1% worse and more costly.

whatnext18

Scatty wrote: »

I have an all electric (bar the oven!) house, it's very small but open plan downstairs and up to the bathroom/bedroom. I keep it fairly cool in winter cos I don't want to end up broke and this cold winter just gone I spent on average £2.60 a day. That is with both Rointe electric radiators (not mine, the landlord installed them) on for roughly 5 hours each a day.


The good side to living in my cold house is that my health has never been so good. Go figure!

My future one is just one floor, so potentially easier to retain heat.


From what I can see on google, I might get a dry thermal one for the living room and a thermal liquid one for bedroom because apparently the latter retains heat for longer so it sort of makes sense

whatnext18

pooch wrote: »

Are you saying there are no hot water radiators in the flat?

If not, I don't think you would have an electric boiler.
It sounds like you have an immersion heater. What size tank?

With a suitable sized tank, and the installation of night storage heaters, then moving to an E7 tariff would be best (although for some reason it sounds like you would prefer to pay full price for all of your electricity)

There may be other electrical options that would reduce your ongoing cost still further, but they typically have a high capital cost
(and such unusual systems may make it more difficult to sell the property, or at least adversely affect it's value)

It would also probably be quite easy to adjust the current asking price to take account of the cost of installing night storage heaters (but you probably won't be able to negotiate that for more expensive options)

No I am thinking about having an electric boiler down the line.
At this point, I have a vented immersion tank which I can change into unvented cylinder as I have been advised that I can save money in running cost and have better hot water pressure.


Well the thing is I don't think the storage heaters sound like the right option for me. From what I can read there is very little control over the heat and using boost function out of low rate times would be expensive.



So my line of reasoning is that if I stick with programmable heaters, as the hours that I would realistically need heating would be high rate hours anyway, it is probably cheaper with normal tariff?


What other electrical options do you have in mind?

jk0

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