Window tinting & the law

AndyMc.....

Nasqueron wrote: »

No, he's asking for proof to support your claim

Happy?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21170697

JustAnotherSaver

So back on topic...

Brother is just wanting to have his windows tinted and take the front sides to the legal limit but obviously doesn't want to make them illegal.
I'm actually seeing the guy who'll do the tints soon so will see if he can accurately determine whether they will remain legal or not.

AndyMc.....

JustAnotherSaver wrote: »

So back on topic...

Brother is just wanting to have his windows tinted and take the front sides to the legal limit but obviously doesn't want to make them illegal.
I'm actually seeing the guy who'll do the tints soon so will see if he can accurately determine whether they will remain legal or not.

So as it stands he has untainted glass? Most cars now come with tinted windows up to the limit.

The machine used can accurately determine anything they want it to as its user calibrated. It’s their specimen glass that determine the accuracy of the machine.

Car_54

AndyMc..... wrote: »

Happy?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21170697

No. That report says "As crown servants police officers cannot be made redundant".



There seems to be no substance to that, and certainly many civil servants - who are also "crown servants" - have been made resundant. If it were true, there would be no need to try to reduce the redundancy payments, as reported here https://www.publicfinance.co.uk/news/2015/07/public-sector-redundancy-payments-be-capped-%C2%A395000


Crown servants are certainly exempted from statutory minimum redundancy payments.

AndyMc.....

Car_54 wrote: »

No. That report says "As crown servants police officers cannot be made redundant".



There seems to be no substance to that, and certainly many civil servants - who are also "crown servants" - have been made resundant. If it were true, there would be no need to try to reduce the redundancy payments, as reported here https://www.publicfinance.co.uk/news/2015/07/public-sector-redundancy-payments-be-capped-%C2%A395000


Crown servants are certainly exempted from statutory minimum redundancy payments.

You’re going to argue a point you know nothing about and upset the OP.

When Cameron decided he had too many police officers and wanted to make them redundant why do you think he didn’t take the cheapest option for the tax payer and do it?

Instead he used A19 to reduce numbers at a massive expense to the public.

Please feel free to find one example of a uk police force making warranted Constables redundant.

Andy_L

Car_54 wrote: »

No. That report says "As crown servants police officers cannot be made redundant".



There seems to be no substance to that, and certainly many civil servants - who are also "crown servants" - have been made resundant. If it were true, there would be no need to try to reduce the redundancy payments, as reported here .

The BBC are wrong. It should say "As holders of the office of Constable" they cannot be made redundant.

Car_54

AndyMc..... wrote: »

You’re going to argue a point you know nothing about and upset the OP.

When Cameron decided he had too many police officers and wanted to make them redundant why do you think he didn’t take the cheapest option for the tax payer and do it?

Instead he used A19 to reduce numbers at a massive expense to the public.

Please feel free to find one example of a uk police force making warranted Constables redundant.

We are indeed moving off topic, but I fail to see why the OP should be upset.


I have no insight into Cameron's motives. I do, however, know that he and his advisors made mistakes. This may have been one of them.

AndyMc.....

Car_54 wrote: »

We are indeed moving off topic, but I fail to see why the OP should be upset.


I have no insight into Cameron's motives. I do, however, know that he and his advisors made mistakes. This may have been one of them.

As a junior minister he was heavily involved in the Sheehy report. The police federation told him to foxtrot Oscar.

When he became PM he wanted to flex his muscles and make some redundant. He was surprised when he was told he couldn’t. :rotfl:

A19 was then introduced, officers on 40k we’re forced to retire, when to the current PM’s husband who sold them back as civilian investigators at a greater cost to the police.

Not a penny was saved to the tax payer.

JustAnotherSaver

Car_54 wrote: »

but I fail to see why the OP should be upset.

I'm not.


I just fail to see the 'need' for a penis measuring contest that's going on that has nothing to do with the creation of this thread really, but hey that's the internet eh? I'll delve through it all and find my answers needle-in-haystack style

AndyMc..... wrote: »

So as it stands he has untainted glass? Most cars now come with tinted windows up to the limit.

I wouldn't know if it's untainted or not. It certainly APPEARS to have zero tint on it but whether or not it actually does have no tint on i couldn't possibly comment, since it may have a level that is undetectable to my eye.


The car is quite old anyway - a 2002 plated Golf GT TDI 150.

The machine used can accurately determine anything they want it to as its user calibrated. It’s their specimen glass that determine the accuracy of the machine.

I don't doubt that the machine is accurate. I'd expect it to be.
I just wondered if you'd expect a good window tinting company to have one of these bits of kit as standard so they can help their customers remain legal or whether it'd be unlikely (that they'd have this machine).


I created this thread a few days in advance by the way. I'll be seeing the chap this weekend so i'll find out soon enough.

AndyMc.....

JustAnotherSaver wrote: »

I'm not.


I just fail to see the 'need' for a penis measuring contest that's going on that has nothing to do with the creation of this thread really, but hey that's the internet eh? I'll delve through it all and find my answers needle-in-haystack style


I wouldn't know if it's untainted or not. It certainly APPEARS to have zero tint on it but whether or not it actually does have no tint on i couldn't possibly comment, since it may have a level that is undetectable to my eye.


The car is quite old anyway - a 2002 plated Golf GT TDI 150.



I don't doubt that the machine is accurate. I'd expect it to be.
I just wondered if you'd expect a good window tinting company to have one of these bits of kit as standard so they can help their customers remain legal or whether it'd be unlikely (that they'd have this machine).


I created this thread a few days in advance by the way. I'll be seeing the chap this weekend so i'll find out soon enough.

What I’m saying to you is you’re going to a company who’s making money by selling tints. The machine can be recalibrated by the user to make illegal tints appear legal.