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Prepping for Brexit thread
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This thread wasn’t meant to be about the politics of it all. It’s for helping each other to get ideas on what we might need to prepare for. There’s a lot of unhappiness from both sides of the vote and this thread wasn’t started to discuss that. Rather to come up with common sense ideas of how to get ready for whatever is going to happen. How to cope, how to keep our families and friends warm and fed if necessary.
Please can we keep this thread for this.
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David_Aston wrote: »If the previous 45 pages have generally forecast difficult times ahead, can I assume all respondents have been doing what they can to prevent brexit happening?
People's vote etc?
I thin regardless of whether people voted leave or remain, regardless of whether they have since signed petitions, gone to the rallies etc, as things stand Brexit will happen in 152 days and as things stand today it will be a no deal Brexit.
So it makes sense to plan. Even if a deal is achieved and there's no disruption, that planning won't go to waste. Extra food purchased can still be eaten, extra first aid supplies, batteries, whatever can still be used. Keeping the car topped up with fuel is sensible anyway. Cash can be paid back into the bank, or spent.
I remember when we had the petrol strikes because I worked for a supermarket at the time. Great for me as I was a poor student and there was plenty of overtime. But I remember being sworn at by drivers when I told them our petrol station was only open for emergency workers who had permits. I also remember having to break up a fight between two middle aged women over a packet of bread rolls.
It didn't last long because the government took action and used the Armed Forces to deliver fuel.
I can see similar happening post Brexit - short term disruption lasting maybe a week or two, while everything adjusts to the new ways. Then things will get back to normal all be it some prices will be higher and there might be certain goods which are not available for longer.
I do hope that we don't see a late Spring though - Brexit combined with another Beast from the East could be challenging.0 -
I fear you might be right about the weather...I've read a couple of reports that it might be another hard winter.0
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Whatever happens next year I think the same prepping applies as for prepping for the coming winter - enough food in cupboards and freezer so you don't have to venture out to the shops in adverse conditions, enough fuel in the car for emergencies, enough of your normal medications in stock so you don't run out. From a Brexit point of view it makes sense to try and get rid of or at least reduce credit card debt and loans, and to budget carefully. I am sure the financial markets will be up and down like a tart's drawers for a while, then things will eventually settle. If there are any foodstuffs you particularly like, which are of EU origin, you have three choices - stock up now, carry on buying them even if the price increases or find some U.K. sourced alternative. We have so many fabulous foodstuffs produced in the U.K. so we won't starve. And of course there are other non-EU countries that we currently trade with.One life - your life - live it!0
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... I can see similar happening post Brexit - short term disruption lasting maybe a week or two, while everything adjusts to the new ways. Then things will get back to normal all be it some prices will be higher and there might be certain goods which are not available for longer ...
I'd expect disruption to be short term too ... however, the most likely reason for price rises would be remaining in a form of customs union & poor currency exchange performance, but in staying 'very close' to the EU why would sterling perform badly?. If the UK leaves the customs union completely, then it will be able to set it's own import duties at levels which aren't detrimental to non-EU supply ... The EU publishes the applicable duties on imports on the 'Market Access Database' (MAD!) here ... http://madb.europa.eu/madb/euTariffs.htm ... a simple skim through a number of product groups gives a clue to what the potential savings on goods can be if/when appropriate trade deals are struck, so I'd expect the trend to be reductions in prices for food which either can't be 'grown' in the UK or would be required outside natural seasonality ...
HTH
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This thread is supposed to be about PREPPING not POLITICS. There are many other threads that have been running on the pros and cons of Brexit or not in the Discussion Time area of MSE where the politics can be wrangled over, argued about and opinions put and possibly changed much more usefully than here. Prepping for an event whatever your political views is a sensible thing to do. Please don't wreck the prepping side of things to try and win points and opinions that people prepping already have fixed in their mindset. Let us get on with what we feel is necessary and you can laugh at us later on if our preparations are for nothing or decide we weren't that daft if our preps were needed. Please just let this thread be about preparations and contingency plans for those people who feel they are necessary. Thank you.0
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I don't think the idea of prepping for various different eventualities resulting from Brexit, whether hard or soft, is any different to generally taking precautions against unknown difficulties. It's like storing a few candles because there is a suggestion that this winter will be particularly hard. Having a couple of week's worth of basic food in stock in case you are snowed in for a fortnight (and yes, this did happen twice to me in Scotland). Ensuring you have sufficient medication in reserve. Brexit is just another potential problem and no doubt the country will muddle through, but why not make life a little easier on yourself and ensure that you and your family have the minimum disruption possible. I see it as an insurance policy against shortages and unreliable supply of goods and services, mostly short-term, but we may have to change our way of life much more drastically to arrest climate change and the dreadful plastics crisis. Whatever precautions we take regarding Brexit it will only alleviate the immediate effects and we will just have to learn to adapt to whatever eventualities occur.Solar Suntellite 250 x16 4kW Afore 3600TL dual 2KW E 2KW W no shade, DN15 March 14
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MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »This thread is supposed to be about PREPPING not POLITICS. There are many other threads that have been running on the pros and cons of Brexit or not in the Discussion Time area of MSE where the politics can be wrangled over, argued about and opinions put and possibly changed much more usefully than here. Prepping for an event whatever your political views is a sensible thing to do. Please don't wreck the prepping side of things to try and win points and opinions that people prepping already have fixed in their mindset. Let us get on with what we feel is necessary and you can laugh at us later on if our preparations are for nothing or decide we weren't that daft if our preps were needed. Please just let this thread be about preparations and contingency plans for those people who feel they are necessary. Thank you.
Agree, that's exactly what I'm trying to get through ... any disruption is likely to be short term (days/weeks not months/years) & apply to a limited subset of the foodstuff and goods we all buy until someone actually gets a handle on the issues - after that it's plain sailing whether we continue to source perishables from within the EU or from alternative sources which, without import duties, are generally hugely cheaper ... it's really only that interim period that we would need to have a contingency plan for.
I, and likely thousands of others, were utterly incensed by 'flocks' of shipped-in 'Peoples Vote' activists that hindered and pestered people that had the simple intent of getting into & out of shops in a busy town centre yesterday ... we must have been pestered by at least 10 different groups of activists, each pushing leaflets & stickers in our and everyone else's faces whilst ensuring that it was almost impossible to get past them by intentionally blocking the way ... nothing like the usual couple of polite 'Big Issue' salespeople - these people were in large numbers, seriously rude, blocking access and particularly abusive to anyone that didn't agree with their viewpoint .... I overheard one ~70+year old couple say that they weren't interested to which a ~20(ish) year old 'girl' with 'Peoples Vote' stickers on her cheeks replied along the lines of 'well, if you weren't so close to being nailed in your coffins you'd think differently ... what about us youngsters - you're just selfish!' followed by applause & further goading by the rest of her flock of flag waving sheep ... this is what it's all come down to, a directed campaign of misinformation & pretty serious personal abuse ... that's why I'm particularly miffed with anyone that raises 'People's Vote' at the moment! .. they just need to grow up! ...
Phew! ... after getting that off my chest, I'm feeling much better now ... :cool:
HTH
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I do appreciate the purpose of this thread, but naturally stand by my earlier comment.0
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Your prerogative but the purpose of the thread is the preparation element which will be of much more use than politics in an uncertain future. None of us know how things will pan out, no one has a scrying glass so the future is an unknown and making preparation for the possibilities that may affect you and yours is more useful than repining the political decision already taken. Please, by all means have your political high ground and stand by your opinion but another venue would be much more suitable than a prepping thread.0
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