Prepping for Brexit thread

monnagran

This is not really me. I am anonymous.

POLITICS formed from

POLI: meaning many. TICS: meaning blood-sucking parasites.

Zentimes

I know a couple of folk who went to demonstrate in London - they work flexi-time so were able to make some time available to go. They can't do that every time obviously. I'm glad there are people demonstrating, it's really important we make our voices heard in any way we can, which might mean emailing one's MP or signing petitions, whatever one is able to do.

As for the argument 'we're Brits, we'll cope', I'm not so sure about Millennials, those who've never had to go without and are used to getting what they want, when they want it. The older generations will deal much better with any privations than the young.

fuddle

When the Jarrow Marchers reached London they were given short shrift. It’s not so much about what they achieved, what their message was or what they wanted, but the fact that people took notice of them. They're still talked about 80odd years later.

In my mind nobody really listens to peaceful Brexit protesting and that's the concerning part for me. They don't stand out at all, their messages contradict and clash, they're regular and to be expected these days. How are they going to get noticed, get listened to and get their wishes acted upon, because as it is, nobody is taking a blind bit of notice and the people they're trying to influence have their own agendas.

Tensions aren't likely to lower anytime soon and if there are arms of professional protesters then how 'professional' are they likely to get. Intersperse a group of hooligans into a group of football fans and...

DawnW

Zentimes wrote: »

I know a couple of folk who went to demonstrate in London - they work flexi-time so were able to make some time available to go. They can't do that every time obviously. I'm glad there are people demonstrating, it's really important we make our voices heard in any way we can, which might mean emailing one's MP or signing petitions, whatever one is able to do.

As for the argument 'we're Brits, we'll cope', I'm not so sure about Millennials, those who've never had to go without and are used to getting what they want, when they want it. The older generations will deal much better with any privations than the young.

I was with you up to the last sentence (disclaimer - I am not a milennial). Young people are as varied as us older ones, and as for them not having experienced privations, what about Universal Credit, ZH contracts, high housing costs, huge university debt?
I see no reason why young people would not be as capable as older ones to withstand privations. As to whether they (or we) should have to, that is another question.

GreyQueen

:T I'd agree heartily with DawnW about millenials. Hands up to being a Gen X-er myself but I do have several friends and acquaintances in the Millenial age cohort. Good people all, not some cliche cry-babies, and have had many hardships to endure. Although they do boggle when I tell them how many millions of people were officially unemployed when I and my peers were trying to launch ourself into adulthood and find jobs.


At least they were jobs once we found them, not this ridiculous zero hours and gigs were something musicians did.

[Deleted User]

In some situations coping is NOT a choice it's the ONLY way to survive intact. The young are as able and capable as the older generation most of them just don't yet have the skills and mindset to allow them to cope and thrive and make good lives. We had a totally different life experience to those of OUR parents and here we are some 70 years later being the ones to say 'youngsters these days, I don't know' just as our forebears must have with each succeeding generation born. We have the skills and hopefully will be able to pass them on and the young are NOT stupid, they will, when the shouting has died down will be as eager to learn them as we are to pass them on. My somewhat limited experience of young people is that they hide behind a mask of 'sameness and conformity to their own peers' but in actual fact are pretty fab individuals with an awful lot to give to society.

Parliament is a disgrace and at this moment in time I'm ashamed to be British because of them!

gfplux

I am one of “those” who has travelled at my expense to protest against Brexit outside Parliament.
I am retired so have the time.
I feel strongly about this subject and presently peaceful if noisy protest is all we have.
I am sad that some consider protesters are in some way not part of society.
Ordinary working people should not put ALL their trust in our elected betters. Protesting or joining a Union might not be everyone’s taste but sometimes leaving it to Parliament is not enough.

This thread is for prepping not for political debate or an opportunity to air ones prejudices.

Farway

GreyQueen wrote: »

baked in the fires of experience. .

Love that phrase, filed away for me to trot out at some time

[Deleted User]

We ALL view Brexit and things related to it from very different places. We do ALL hold different political views but we are united by the need to prepare in one way or another for whatever the eventual Brexit if it happens turns out to be. It is INEVITABLE that our political convictions will flavour our posts particularly in times of political turmoil such as we currently have. I have no particular objection to the public voicing their views anywhere that it is lawful to do so, I do find the man with the megaphone particularly grating, not because of what his message is but from the extreme loudness of his voice through the megaphone when I'm trying to hear what the interviewers are asking and what the guests are replying. I believe in freedom of speech, which I've posted like an old scratched vinyl record many, many times before. I defend utterly the right of the person to say what they feel BUT I don't have to agree with it and my freedom of speech is there to enable me and any one of us the freedom to put our views down in words here or anywhere else.
Yes this thread IS about Brexit but standing back and being utterly unemotional and un-political while you post is, in these troubled and volatile times virtually impossible.

All are welcome on this thread and every single view is valid!

fuddle

I note the red lentils have been hit considerably this morning in my local Lidl. I'll be down there often looking for the when the squash is on sale as I know they have a long shelf life. I haven't grown any this year and although I realise that Lidl's offerings are highly unlikely to have the longevity on the shelf like my freshly cut from the vine, still, it's something that I can store with vigilance.