Prepping for Brexit thread

carrielovesfanta

I don't think that people voted to leave to have less choice. Or to try put others in a position where they have less choice! I don't think that people are scared that they won't have out of season strawberries, I think it's the shock that it won't be business as usual, and that there may potentially be some short-to-medium term changes that they were unaware of. (And this is speaking as someone who won't touch out of season produce with a bargepole.)


Even many in-season fruits and veg don't originate in the UK (Belgian pears and NZ apples... I'm looking at you). I'm all for reducing reliance on out of season non-local food, but it's not something that is easily done overnight. A lot of items can no longer be sourced locally. Not everyone can cook well, or thriftily. Not everyone can identify good produce, or when something is safe to eat (and that's not generational - my 60 year old m-I-l believes that things become deadly poison at midnight on their best before date!)


If people are coming in for a sharp shock when it comes to food, it's well to remember that it's not necessarily through personal ignorance - our culture and society have encouraged this way of eating (and living) and it will have to be a cultural shift to move us away from it. Those who can grow, cook, preserve etc have a duty to pass that ability on and be supportive of those who haven't had a chance to develop those skills.

[Deleted User]

What I'm trying to say is that we can make a good life here in the UK whatever circumstances we find ourselves in if Brexit happens or not. It's not going to be life as normal even if we end up staying in the EU as they'll have their own agenda for dealing with us after the fuss dies down and it won't be on the same footing as it was before the vote took place.

I'm not harking back to the 'good old days' and the sun wasn't always shining in the past but we did live a lot more simply and we were healthy and we were content with lots less then is available nowadays. The choice we have is lovely but if it wasn't as wide as it is today in all things we could still live well and healthily and we'd get used to it more quickly than you think!

Honey_Bear

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

It's not going to be life as normal even if we end up staying in the EU as they'll have their own agenda for dealing with us after the fuss dies down and it won't be on the same footing as it was before the vote took place.

What evidence do you have for that assertion?

[Deleted User]

A very experienced teacher daughter who is head of a politics department!

Honey_Bear

An opinion is not evidence.

[Deleted User]

Not playing, won't be drawn into a discussion over anything!

silvasava

Let's face it - the whole of this thread is basically people's opinions one way or another. Some people have a more balanced view and if we stay in the EU in some form or other I don't think it will be on the same basis........ but that's just my opinion

fuddle

Since when do we need evidence to hit 'reply' on MSE OS?

[Deleted User]

Since you appear to have all the answers you tell us how it's going to be?

Goldiegirl

carrielovesfanta wrote: »

I don't think that people voted to leave to have less choice. Or to try put others in a position where they have less choice! I don't think that people are scared that they won't have out of season strawberries, I think it's the shock that it won't be business as usual, and that there may potentially be some short-to-medium term changes that they were unaware of. (And this is speaking as someone who won't touch out of season produce with a bargepole.)


Even many in-season fruits and veg don't originate in the UK (Belgian pears and NZ apples... I'm looking at you). I'm all for reducing reliance on out of season non-local food, but it's not something that is easily done overnight. A lot of items can no longer be sourced locally. Not everyone can cook well, or thriftily. Not everyone can identify good produce, or when something is safe to eat (and that's not generational - my 60 year old m-I-l believes that things become deadly poison at midnight on their best before date!)


If people are coming in for a sharp shock when it comes to food, it's well to remember that it's not necessarily through personal ignorance - our culture and society have encouraged this way of eating (and living) and it will have to be a cultural shift to move us away from it. Those who can grow, cook, preserve etc have a duty to pass that ability on and be supportive of those who haven't had a chance to develop those skills.

I totally agree.

In the event of a no deal Brexit, there is likely to be a huge shock to the system, and those who aren't prepared for it probably aren't going to react too well, if they are presented with supermarket shelves.

Also, Brexit is happening at the worst possible time, when the Hungry Gap kicks in and there is very little home produced food available.

I was looking at my salad produce that I purchased today, all from Spain and Italy. If the worst happens and the ports snarl up, there simply won't be fresh produce on the shelves. The Bristish Retail Consortium was warning of this only yesterday.

I personally feel that the British people aren't ready to live well on less - particularly when its caused by the government and not by natural disaster our outside influences. Things could get very bad indeed, if the worst case scenario happens. I know some people think that this is all hysteria - but we are on a prepping thread, and anybody who is already prepping must feel that, in some way, there is going to be a problem.

Changing the subject slightly, I heard this from a person I know from Twitter. I've followed him for a long time, so I have no reason to believe this is not true

'My partner just had a call from NHS Blood Donation, cancelling her April appointment, because they're shutting down in Kent port towns between mid-March and May, anticipating that Operation Stack on the M20 will prevent them from moving staff in or blood out.'

So there's another contingency to think of !