Is this victimisation or discrimination?

pmduk

Ladyluck1982 wrote: »

I’m a senior employee and a high earner. I’m not going to just walk straight into another role.

Then the company was entitled to expect high standards from you. Certainly higher than those you've described.

sangie595

Smodlet wrote: »

If you are thinking of the thread I think you are thinking of, LilElvis, was she not the only female in the place and the manager a complete Neanderthal? Of course the sympathy was largely with her. This sounds completely different to me from that situation. Apologies if I am astray in my recollection.

"She" was also an out and out troll who posted the same scenario on numerous sites, in some cases posting both as the employer and the employee (and this was caught by site admin, hence them identifying the person as trolling).

And the more of this story that unfolds, the more similar it becomes to that one too. Including the jealous partner now. I wonder how many pages this one will run to before people realise.... The story changes depending on what people post to keep it going. Any senior employee who conducts themselves in the way described here would expect to be dismissed - male or female. If they don't been over promoted!

Smodlet

Clearly I am remembering a different thread, then, Sangie. Apologies for my mistake.

xapprenticex

Hey OP, probably time to move on now before this thread makes you feel worse.



Read what Sangie said as it covers everything and leave it at that unless you delight in being lambasted.


Nothing can be done regarding your old job, by all means contact them and ask if you can have a positive or at least a neutral reference.



And tbh the culture of your old work place was disgusting anyway, sounds like a grotty warehouse.

jobbingmusician

You have actually been given excellent advice in this thread. It's rather buried in speculation, but still stands.

Check whether the employer followed their own disciplinary policy. It does seem strange to me that no investigation was carried out. Was there a disciplinary meeting? Did you get any chance to put your side of the story? (If the answer to both of these is yes, then your chances are weak.) If the answer is no, you may well have a case for breach of contract. Does your contract state that the formal disciplinary procedure does not apply in the first two years of employment?

Masomnia

nicechap wrote: »

Ahh, but look at the reactions, they've clearly touched a nerve so people have reacted.

People just love a bit of salacious gossip and enjoy putting others down, must make them feel better.

Whoever it was said that they probably would have done the same to man if it were the opposite way is on the money here, as you would need to show that they would not in order to succeed in a discrimination claim. That really depends on your workplace, I don't think it's impossible based on what you've described, though obviously we don't have the whole of the story.

Agree with the above that you may have contractual procedures that they didn't follow, but if they gave you pay in lieu of notice you probably can't claim much else.

If you've been a high earner you're probably better than paying for a bit of advice than asking randomers on the internet.

Good luck anyway.

Ladyluck1982

Thank you, and you’re right when you put it like that. My employer would have acted the same way if the situation was reversed.

But I just feel so aggrieved at the differing treatment between me and the guy! He’s walked off scott free and this was a two way consensual thing. He’s made it out like I was hounding him and that the attention was unwanted. Which isn’t the case.

Ladyluck1982

We don’t have any disciplinary processes that form part of the contract. We don’t really have anything, no policies or processes.

I say we... I’m not part of their ‘we’ any more.

pinkshoes

Have you actually put in a written complaint against this guy in the same manner he complained against you?

As he is guilty of the same crime, then I don't see why he should get away with it. He should also be sacked.

Just because he got in their first with his complaint doesn't mean they shouldn't investigate it.

z1a

Ladyluck1982 wrote: »

Regarding the sexting, there wasn!!!8217;t any such thing. We had both sent a couple of flirtatious messages back and forth but there wasn!!!8217;t any sexting.

The team that I had spoken to were all colleagues on my level that we were away with. The banter is always very sexual and can be fun, but it ended up that I was being called names and had guys in work asking me for sexual favours, one asked me how much I was charge them all for oral. This was the comments I meant as being over the line. To be clear, these were not my members of staff, these were all managerial colleagues.

Me and the man in question we!!!8217;re both on the same level in work.

There was no investigation, I guess because he!!!8217;s been there longer they!!!8217;ve just assumed he was being honest? I really don!!!8217;t know how this has worked.

Well, they've already established what you are, just trying to find your price point!