Laptop Confusion

benson1980

EveryWhere wrote: »

More funny that you appear to not comprehend that a Chromebook is often just a poorly specified laptop with a polished version of the Chromium operating system installed. Ridiculous to spend nearly £300 for a perhaps £200 device.

No need to spend that on one, as you can simply re-purpose an old device by installing a Chromium OS build. That costs nothing.

So your repeated claim that I haven't owned a Chromebook is wrong. I just have never purchased a Chromebook.
I already explained it to you earlier, but that seemed to go right over your head.

The difference with a purchased Chromebook is that the hardware and software are more closely matched.

But then I already have a laptop, so paying for a Chromebook for an extra function or two that I can already attain with my Windows laptop makes no sense at all.

So, let us remember that this is a 'money saving' website. So instead of suggesting the OP goes out to spend £280 on an overpriced device, why not suggest that they re-purpose an old machine to try it out in the first instance?

And round and round we go again. Anyone who pays more than £100 on a chromebook has wasted their money. Many people including thousands of people who have reviewed their purchases on amazon disagree but no no. You are right and we are all wrong. Indeed it is a money saving site hence why I suggested in my opinion for what the op wants the chromebook offerings are better suited at this particular price point. This is my opinion but you just can’t accept that anyone’s opinion other than your own might be a viable one. I’m not saying your advice is wrong. It’s just different. But you just seem to have a real issue with chrome books!

EveryWhere

benson1980 wrote: »

And round and round we go again. Anyone who pays more than £100 on a chromebook has wasted their money. Many people including thousands of people who have reviewed their purchases on amazon disagree but no no. You are right and we are all wrong. Indeed it is a money saving site hence why I suggested in my opinion for what the op wants the chromebook offerings are better suited at this particular price point. This is my opinion but you just can!!!8217;t accept that anyone!!!8217;s opinion other than your own might be a viable one. I!!!8217;m not saying your advice is wrong. It!!!8217;s just different. But you just seem to have a real issue with chrome books!

No. It just seems that you have a bee in your bonnet.
No one here has disparaged Chromebooks. The argument is not to pay to much for them.
But perhaps because you did, you are upset.
To suggest that for a budget of £350, the OP should buy a Chromebook is just nuts.

There are many sheep out there. Who will guide them?
That why we have these boards. To stop people wasting money if they don't want to waste it.

I'm sure if many knew they could simply re-purpose an old machine with the operating system, they may have attempted it.

So, you've made your point and I have made mine. So why do you insist on arguing about it?

My argument is "don't spend too much on cheap hardware" and "try the OS out for free before taking the plunge".

Yours is what exactly?

Remember, I can dual boot my laptop with Chromium/Chrome OS and Windows.

So I can have both. Can you? Added to that, the OS will be running on superior hardware so will be even faster.

benson1980

I do find you quite amusing actually but if it makes you feel better rest assured you will get the final word, as I think I'll wrap it up here as I've got other things to be doing!

If I was upset about my purchase I'd probably just keep quiet about it, and use my probook or macbook air. The fact is, my £280 chromebook blows the £300 windows 10 lenovo laptop that preceded it out of the water. It's vastly better built, has better speakers, the touchpad is in a different stratosphere. The operating system is also vastly better suited to the relatively low spec in terms of processor etc and is lightening quick compared to any windows laptop I've ever used for pretty much everything I use a laptop for. And did I mention the touchscreen part? You just compare some spec sheets my friend and tell everyone your opinion is right when you've never owned one. And installing chrome os on your dodgy old laptop doesn't count.

EveryWhere

benson1980 wrote: »

I do find you quite amusing actually but if it makes you feel better rest assured you will get the final word, as I think I'll wrap it up here as I've got other things to be doing!

If I was upset about my purchase I'd probably just keep quiet about it, and use my probook or macbook air. The fact is, my £280 chromebook blows the £300 windows 10 lenovo laptop that preceded it out of the water. It's vastly better built, has better speakers, the touchpad is in a different stratosphere. The operating system is also vastly better suited to the relatively low spec in terms of processor etc and is lightening quick compared to any windows laptop I've ever used for pretty much everything I use a laptop for. And did I mention the touchscreen part? You just compare some spec sheets my friend and tell everyone your opinion is right when you've never owned one. And installing chrome os on your dodgy old laptop doesn't count.

Wasn't talking about "my dodgy old laptop" in this case, but my
Dell Inspiron 17-7746
i7-5500u
8GB RAM
240 GB SSD Paid £50 for that.
GT-845M graphics card
17.3" Full HD Touchscreen
Solid aluminium body.

for which I paid £360 as new.

Now let's look at the price of the relatively poor Chromebook;

Intel Celeron C3855, 4GB RAM, 13.3-inch 1,366 x 768 touch screen, 16GB storage
£333 (ex. VAT)

So please, just because your bought cheap crud beforehand, it doesn't suddenly make you an expert on choosing devices now.
It's poor value based on your poor choices beforehand.

almillar

If I was upset about my purchase I'd probably just keep quiet about it, and use my probook or macbook air

I have been reading quietly, but this is the point I think may have been missed. I don't think the Chromebook (at whatever price) is any good as a solo laptop - you've got 2 alternatives, and I don't think it's good advice for most people to have a Chromebook as their only computer. Something will come along that they can't do (usually specific Windows software).

benson1980

almillar wrote: »

I have been reading quietly, but this is the point I think may have been missed. I don't think the Chromebook (at whatever price) is any good as a solo laptop - you've got 2 alternatives, and I don't think it's good advice for most people to have a Chromebook as their only computer. Something will come along that they can't do (usually specific Windows software).

I do, when you consider what the majority of people use a laptop for, as per the OPs original post regarding their requirements. I get that its not the IT pros platform of choice, but I get by quite fine and I do a lot with it- probably more than the average person would with torrents and fully utilising the cloud storage etc. There is absolutely nothing I used my mac for that I cannot now do on the chromebook.

The reality is I bought my macbook based on this exact advice that you provide as I wanted something quicker than windows and didn't appreciate the alternative on offer. I wish I got the chromebook first as I wouldn't have bothered with the expensive mac which now mostly sits in my cupboard unused.

I don't really care that much about specs, as I would hazard a guess most people don't. They just want something that works well and does all that they want.

EveryWhere

benson1980 wrote: »

I do, when you consider what the majority of people use a laptop for, as per the OPs original post regarding their requirements. I get that its not the IT pros platform of choice, but I get by quite fine and I do a lot with it- probably more than the average person would with torrents and fully utilising the cloud storage etc. There is absolutely nothing I used my mac for that I cannot now do on the chromebook.

The reality is I bought my macbook based on this exact advice that you provide as I wanted something quicker than windows and didn't appreciate the alternative on offer. I wish I got the chromebook first as I wouldn't have bothered with the expensive mac which now mostly sits in my cupboard unused.

I don't really care that much about specs, as I would hazard a guess most people don't. They just want something that works well and does all that they want.

But what happens when it doesn't do all that they want?
All you are doing is "guessing" what other people want. In reality, you've just made bad decisions in the past.
You are just prescribing your Dell Chromebook as the end to everyone who isn't a Techie's problems. Which is patently ridiculous.

It's just an operating system with relatively cheap hardware attached.

Compare it to the laptop for which I paid £360 and simply does not compare.

It's just a low spec laptop with Chrome OS installed. Don't go overboard.

People can have a similar experience by re-purposing their old laptops and not have to spend anything close to what you propose.
You are happy with your Chromebook and good for you. No need for you to take it personally when some suggest that isn't the step forward that you think it is.

benson1980

It is ironic, when you are the one who is absolutely insistent that you are right and cannot accept an alternative viewpoint. Where have I ever said that windows is a bad option or that chromebooks are the best for everyone? I haven't. Based on the OPs requirements in a laptop can you propose anything where they would come unstuck with a chromebook? They posted on here saying what they used a laptop for and a chromebook fits the bill.

I also find it odd as to why when you open source search for reviews, the people who actually test them don't have the same malfunction you seem to have with them being a complete rip off.

I'm not prescribing my dell chromebook to anyone. There's tonnes of options. If people want to refurbish an old laptop instead crack on. I don't think that's a bad idea. The fundamental issue is that anyone who has a different opinion to you is wrong. You don't even own one and never have, yet you are still right and informed to tell everyone else that they are complete rubbish.

EveryWhere

benson1980 wrote: »

It is ironic, when you are the one who is absolutely insistent that you are right and cannot accept an alternative viewpoint. Where have I ever said that windows is a bad option or that chromebooks are the best for everyone? I haven't. Based on the OPs requirements in a laptop can you propose anything where they would come unstuck with a chromebook? They posted on here saying what they used a laptop for and a chromebook fits the bill.

I also find it odd as to why when you open source search for reviews, the people who actually test them don't have the same malfunction you seem to have with them being a complete rip off.

I'm not prescribing my dell chromebook to anyone. There's tonnes of options. If people want to refurbish an old laptop instead crack on. I don't think that's a bad idea. The fundamental issue is that anyone who has a different opinion to you is wrong. You don't even own one and never have, yet you are still right and informed to tell everyone else that they are complete rubbish.

When have I stated they were complete rubbish? Do you have some kind mental illness? You seem to have an argument going on with yourself inside your head.

Once again; My argument is "don't spend too much on cheap hardware" and "try the OS out for free before taking the plunge".

Where in that do I state they are rubbish?

benson1980

EveryWhere wrote: »

When have I stated they were complete rubbish? Do you have some kind mental illness? You seem to have an argument going on with yourself inside your head.

Once again; My argument is "don't spend too much on cheap hardware" and "try the OS out for free before taking the plunge".

Where in that do I state they are rubbish?

I didn't think that I had a mental illness but are you an expert who knows everything on that as well?

I believe it was the bit where you said no way would you spend over £200. Everything over that will be overpriced. They are merely poorly specced laptops