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June 2018 - start of the new PPC and DVLA fightback (GDPR related)

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  • Computersaysno
    Computersaysno Posts: 1,222 Forumite
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    beamerguy wrote: »
    DVLA ignore GDPR ????

    That would make a big splash over the media.

    "One government agency ignore another agency"

    How would Elizabeth Denham, the Information Commissioner
    explain that one away

    It's either GDPR or it's not

    See the post above this one....looks like I'm in the right ball park!!!
  • abedegno
    abedegno Posts: 177 Forumite
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    This situation has not changed with the implementation of the General Data Protection Regulation which came into effect in May 2018.

    Their response suggests they do not appear to have read and understand your request properly.

    We are not asking for a restriction of processing under article 18 of GDPR, but are instead exercising the data subjects rights for data under article 22, where entirely automated processing include a manual step.

    I would suggest a response to them on those lines, and also raise a complaint with ICO for clarification.
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    See the post above this one....looks like I'm in the right ball park!!!

    And see what abedegno has said

    "Their response suggests they do not appear to have read and understand your request properly.

    We are not asking for a restriction of processing under article 18 of GDPR, but are instead exercising the data subjects rights for data under article 22, where entirely automated processing include a manual step.

    I would suggest a response to them on those lines, and also raise a complaint with ICO for clarification."
  • Computersaysno
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    I'm still going with 'You're not going to derail the gravy train that easily'....


    Having said that they may just decide that the numbers who do send the 'opt me out' letter that they will do it just so as not to be bothered by complaints to ICO etc.


    Although to be honest most of the people who will have the sense/ability to send an 'opt out' letter would never pay PPC scum anyway so it will make no difference to their operations.


    I'd love to be wrong....
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    I'm still going with 'You're not going to derail the gravy train that easily'....


    Having said that they may just decide that the numbers who do send the 'opt me out' letter that they will do it just so as not to be bothered by complaints to ICO etc.


    Although to be honest most of the people who will have the sense/ability to send an 'opt out' letter would never pay PPC scum anyway so it will make no difference to their operations.


    I'd love to be wrong....

    Your problem is that you are a pessimist
    "a person who tends to see the worst aspect of things or believe that the worst will happen."

    Whereas, the good folk on here are optomists

    If Winston Churchill was a pessimist, most of us would not
    be here today
  • DoaM
    DoaM Posts: 11,863 Forumite
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    beamerguy wrote: »
    If Winston Churchill was a pessimist, most of us would not
    be here today

    Oh ja, wir würden ... wir würden nur eine andere Sprache sprechen.

    ;):D
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    DoaM wrote: »
    Oh ja, wir würden ... wir würden nur eine andere Sprache sprechen.

    ;):D

    Thank god we will never know, but I prefer English so the optomist won
  • abedegno
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    The law allows the DVLA to release information from the vehicle record to third parties who can demonstrate they have reasonable cause to receive it. Disclosure in these circumstances does not breach the Data Protection Act and the Information Commissioner’s Office is fully aware that data held on the DVLA’s records is released in this way.

    Interestingly, appears to be almost copied from the PDF here:
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/710366/inf266-release-of-information-from-dvlas-registers.pdf
  • Castle
    Castle Posts: 4,213 Forumite
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    The law allows the DVLA to release information from the vehicle record to third parties who can demonstrate they have reasonable cause to receive it.
    Then it should be very easy for the DVLA to explain how their autonomous decision making process can come to the conclusion that "reasonable cause" has been demonstrated.
  • abedegno
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    Looks like the ICO today have also published some new detailed guidance around profiling/automated decision making here:
    https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/automated-decision-making-and-profiling/
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