Forced To Extract My Own Tooth Because Dentists would Not Do It.

System

indsty wrote: »

You need to discuss your problems with your mental health team. Four different dentists thought it unnecessary to remove your tooth. We cannot help you on this forum as we have tried to explain on your other threads.

Well they were wrong.

That tooth was loose and causing me so much pain it had to come out. It's easy for those dentists to say there is nothing wrong. Even when I told them I was in pain.
But they don't have to live with it.

I was in constant pain and told them but they would not listen to me about that tooth and did nothing about it.

But that tooth was not hurting or causing me any problems before the dentist did the extraction on my other tooth.

The tooth my dentist extracted was causing me pain for weeks. It was also giving me pains on and of since December then 4 weeks ago I had constant pain.

But the other tooth next to it did not hurt at all or cause me any problems before the dentist did the extraction.
And neither did any of my other teeth.

That's the point.
It was only the tooth the dentist extracted that was giving me toothache and causing me pain.
Not the tooth next to it. And not any of my other teeth.

But when my dentist took the tooth out it was then after the extraction when the injection wore off, that tooth started hurting.

But I never had any problems with that tooth before.

Okay it is possible that there could have also been a problem with that tooth as well as the one he extracted, but the dentist never spotted it.
And I did not know either because all of the pain coming from that tooth.

But I think it is probably unlikely because if there had have been I would have also felt pain from that tooth but I did not.

So I think it is something the dentist did when he extracted my tooth that cased the problem with the tooth next to it.

As I said in one of my posts, maybe the dentist should not have used the elevator stick to extract my tooth.
He could have used another instrument such as the one the dentist in 2007 used to extract my back molar.

I don't know what it's called but it was something that looked like a bottle opener that was round and gripped the whole of the back tooth.

It was not the metal stick that my dentist used.
So it did not go against my other teeth.

And also when my dentist extracted my bottom molar tooth in 2013 he used dental forceps that are like pliers. that only grip the tooth not the other teeth.

As I said I have never had this problem when I have had other teeth extracted by the dentist.
So I do think it's something the dentist did while he was extracting my tooth that cased the problem.

Especially if that tooth was not hurting before he did the extraction. But when he extracted my tooth did did something to that tooth which was next to it.

Or maybe the tooth next to the extracted one was just a week tooth but we will never know for sure.

But it is possible that I did have a problem with that tooth also but it was not spotted by the dentist.

But certainly if there had have been a dentist can extract more than one tooth. And people have had more than one extraction in the surgery at the same time.

So the dentist could have extracted both those tooth there and then while I was there if both teeth had needed extracting.

But as it was only the one tooth that was hurting it was that one that needed to come out.

The point is I went in there with a tooth that was hurting and needed to come out.

The dentist took it out.
But then I came out of there with another tooth that was hurting that did not hurt before.
You don't expect something like that to happen.
That does not seem right to me.
Something is wrong some where.

System

Ames wrote: »

I think I read on another thread that you're on the ASD spectrum?

You could try to be referred to the community dental service. They'll have the experience to talk you through things and make sure you understand what they're saying and what's happening.

Even with anaesthetic you can feel the tugging and pushing during an extraction, that's perfectly normal. And it seems that you didn't understand the importance of avoiding dry socket and how to do that. Cutting the stitches out so quickly was an absolutely wrong move.

I also agree with Red-Squirrel, you seem to be struggling at the moment and it sounds like you really need a support worker of some kind.

I was with the Community Dentist in 2007 but I left them because they kept on fobbing me off. When I had problems with another tooth if you read my other post.

11 years ago in 2007 I had terrible toothache in very back top molar tooth right at the back. I was with the community dentist at the time and I first started getting discomfort in that tooth the year before in 2006.

I told them I though it might need a filing but they would not fill it saying there was nothing wrong with it. It was just sensitive and put desensitizing varnish on it instead.
Which did nothing to help and I had discomfort every time I ate on that side for over a year.

Then eventually the year later in 2007 it turned into terrible pain real toothache. Giving me terrible pain in my top and bottom teeth, the right side of my face and right eye.


They made me wait another week before the dentist would see me. Then when I got to the dentist she took X rays and said there was nothing wrong with my bottom teeth.
I did not think there was as it was that top tooth that was making the bottom one hurt.

But she also said there was nothing wrong with my top tooth because the X Rays show nothing. even though I was in real agony. She fobbed me off and said it was a sensitive tooth and did not need to be filled or taken out.

So she would not do anything because nothing showed up on the X Rays but I was in real pain. So something was wrong.
But she did not do anything about it.
And all she did was put more varnish on which did nothing for me.

They based their judgement on my MH health. That is they thought because I have MH problems they thought the pain was all in my mind. Or at least they treated me that way.
But it was NOT. I was in pain and they did nothing.
And ended up having to go back to high street NHS dentists. Going from surgery to surgery. Until I found one who would treat me and he took that tooth out.

So I am NEVER going back to the Community Dentist.
NOT EVER.


There is other reason why I had to take my tooth out.
My DLA benefit is being reviewed for PIP. I got a letter from the DWP 3 weeks ago. They have sent me the form.
And I have to fill it in and send it back to them.

I have to see the welfare benefits adviser who is helping me fill it in.
But because I was in so much pain, I had to cancel the appointment with him.
So now I am late sending it back because I could not to to them to get the form done because of this.

This is very stressful for me and I may have to go for a face to face medical with a DWP heath professional.

And I cannot do all of that if I am in pain.
So that's another reason I had to get that tooth out.

If I had not taken that tooth out I could have been going round private dentists for weeks and not getting results.

And the pain could have gone on for weeks or even months.

And now with my being reviewed for PIP(Personal Independence Payment) benefit.
As well as going though the stress of filling in the form.
Maybe going to a face to face medical.
Or even having to appeal I don't get it or get put on a lower rate.

How could I have done all of that if I was in pain from that toothache.
I couldn't.
Because I couldn't manage like that.
Nobody can.
So I had to get that tooth out and I did.

Carrot007

I think you have little understanding of dentistry and how an extraction can very likely cause tempory pain in another tooth and that no sane dentist would want to do another extaction for a few weeks to confirm it was just not an temporary issue of the extraction.

Responce to pain is subjective and you seem to focus on it. That will make it worse.

System

Carrot007 wrote: »

I think you have little understanding of dentistry and how an extraction can very likely cause tempory pain in another tooth and that no sane dentist would want to do another extaction for a few weeks to confirm it was just not an temporary issue of the extraction.

Responce to pain is subjective and you seem to focus on it. That will make it worse.

Well it's never happened to me when I have had other teeth extracted in the past. As I said in my other posts.

So I think the dentist could have accidentally banged or dislodged the tooth during the extraction.

If that's the case maybe I could sue him or the dental practice for it.
But I don't think I would get very far.
Because the dentist could say I wanted the extraction.

So the judge might think it's my fault.
Also that I took the other tooth out myself is not going to help me.
So I don't think I would win if I took the dentist to court.
Do you?

bugslet

annbarbs wrote: »

Well it's never happened to me when I have had other teeth extracted in the past. As I said in my other posts.

So I think the dentist could have accidentally banged or dislodged the tooth during the extraction.

If that's the case maybe I could sue him or the dental practice for it.
But I don't think I would get very far.
Because the dentist could say I wanted the extraction.

So the judge might think it's my fault.
Also that I took the other tooth out myself is not going to help me.
So I don't think I would win if I took the dentist to court.
Do you?

No.

Some teeth come out easier than others, some times the roots curve and that makes extraction harder. So every time you have a tooth out, it varies. Sometimes the tools they use for one, will not be appropriate for another. Sometimes the angle they need to adopt will mean that there is more pressure on the adjoining teeth than with a previous extraction.

I have very weak tooth enamel and around half of my teeth have been extracted, so I do have some experience.

Personally I would stop obsessing over it. You have taken your own tooth out and that is the end of the matter. No court would entertain you sueing the dentist because you have no evidence and clipping stitches and removal of your own tooth would mean the case would not even get off the starting block.

Please see your support worker.

Saffythecat

I really sympathise, @annbarbs - I have had a hellish year with my own teeth as I have been grinding and clenching them at night due to stress. I now wear a mouth-guard, but the damage was done! In the last 12 months I have had four root canals and one extraction (whuch was one of the root canals). But I would do anything to save my teeth, root canals are boring, and expensive, but they don!!!8217;t hurt and will help you keep the teeth. (I get mine crowned in a couple of weeks.) I hope you are okay and don!!!8217;t get any more toothache.

System

So I think the dentist could have accidentally banged or dislodged the tooth during the extraction.

If that's the case maybe I could sue him or the dental practice for it.
But I don't think I would get very far.
Because the dentist could say I wanted the extraction.

So the judge might think it's my fault.
Also that I took the other tooth out myself is not going to help me.
So I don't think I would win if I took the dentist to court.
Do you?

bugslet wrote:

No.

I don't think so either.

bugslet wrote:

Some teeth come out easier than others, some times the roots curve and that makes extraction harder. So every time you have a tooth out, it varies. Sometimes the tools they use for one, will not be appropriate for another. Sometimes the angle they need to adopt will mean that there is more pressure on the adjoining teeth than with a previous extraction.

I have very weak tooth enamel and around half of my teeth have been extracted, so I do have some experience.

Personally I would stop obsessing over it. You have taken your own tooth out and that is the end of the matter. No court would entertain you sueing the dentist because you have no evidence and clipping stitches and removal of your own tooth would mean the case would not even get off the starting block.

Please see your support worker.

That's what some of the dentists I saw told me. And it also said that on the websites I read online about this. So I think that's true.
Even if the dentist had have used dental forceps or another instrument to extract my tooth. I might still have had the same problem.

We will never know why that tooth came loose after the dentist extraction. Maybe it was because of the extraction.

Or maybe it was something else. And there may have been a problem with that tooth. Either way we don't know and as you say I have taken the tooth out. And it is gone now and I am no longer in pain. So I have solved the problem.

I know by taking my own tooth out I took the high risk option and got away with it. But it's done now. So I need to move my thoughts on.

Saffythecat wrote: »

I really sympathise, @annbarbs - I have had a hellish year with my own teeth as I have been grinding and clenching them at night due to stress. I now wear a mouth-guard, but the damage was done! In the last 12 months I have had four root canals and one extraction (whuch was one of the root canals). But I would do anything to save my teeth, root canals are boring, and expensive, but they don!!!8217;t hurt and will help you keep the teeth. (I get mine crowned in a couple of weeks.) I hope you are okay and don!!!8217;t get any more toothache.

I am going through a very difficult time because my Disability Living Allowance DLA is being reviewed for PIP, Personal Independence Payment.

I got the letter from the DWP saying my DLA is now being reviewed only 3 weeks ago. and they sent me the claim form a few days after I phoned then telling them I want to claim PIP.

But I have not got the form filled in yet because I had the toothache. And could not go to the welfare benefits adviser to get it done, because I was in too much pain to do anything.

That's why I was so desperate to get the tooth out. Because as I said in my post before . I will have to go to the welfare benefits officer to get the form filled in then get my Social worker to do a supporting letter for me.

Then get it sent off. Then I may be called up for a medical with the DWP. And I cannot do all of that if I am in pain.

I need to be psychically fit as I may have to fight if I don't get my benefit. but I cannot fight if I am not strong, and in constant pain as I was with that toothache.
Now do you understand why I was so desperate to get that tooth out?

Saffythecat

I think you did what you perceived as the best thing under difficult circumstances. The tooth may have been fine in a few weeks, but now it!!!8217;s gone. All the very best with your benefits claim.

System

Saffythecat wrote: »

I think you did what you perceived as the best thing under difficult circumstances. The tooth may have been fine in a few weeks, but now it!!!8217;s gone. All the very best with your benefits claim.

Yeah. I have got enough to worry about with my PIP.
Without having to deal with constant pain from a toothache as well.

One dentist said it could take 2 months to heal.
You know the one that wanted to do the root canal.

But I could not go on for 2 months in pain it would drive me up the wall.
Well it did already and I had it for a week.
Thank God that tooth has gone.
Well I have got myself to thank for that.

But as I said earlier I should not have had to do that.
The dentists should have taken it out but they didn't.

A lot of dentists want to do root canals and crowns instead of taking tooth out.
But that needs to change.
It's not suitable for everyone. And I don't think it was suitable for me. Because I have weak and sensitive gums and teeth.

So I think if I had have had a root canal I might have had more problems. That's why I had the tooth out and did the same thing with my other teeth I had problems with. Because they could not be filled.

Sometimes extraction is the only option but a lot of dentists don't want to do it.
Also there is no NHS dentist any more.
I mean there is but a NHS dentist is not the same as a NHS GP or NHS hospital

NHS dentist like Options have been privatised by the government and have been got over 30 years.

You have to pay to go to the dentist even NHS ones. And even if you get it for free because you are on income related benefits.
They dentists or clinics still get their money from the DWP who pays for you.


So why do you think they are giving people so many crowns and root canal instead of extraction as they should do?
Because there is not much money for the dentist if he extracts the tooth but if he does a root canal and crown, he gets £1500 or £3000 from the DWP if you are on benefits. Or from you if you can pay.
So of course dentists are going to say you gotta have a root canal or a crown.

They just want the money, they don't care about you. Or what happens to you or what side effects you may suffer from it once it is in.
They only care about the money.

But you don't have to pay to see an NHS GP or go to an NHS hospital. NHS hospitals and GP are not making money out of you, but dentists are. Because they are no longer part of the NHS health trust or NHS. Fact.

Saffythecat

Respectfully, I disagree. A root canal means you can save the tooth. Most dentists want to preserve teeth. But ultimately, as the customer, you have a choice. I recently paid almost £2,000 for root canal on two teeth, whereas extractions would have been about £20 (and I now need to pay for the crowns), and I am very glad I saved those teeth. But if I had chosen extraction, my dentist would have taken the teeth out, and I would be living with a gap in my upper back teeth.

For clarity, I am an NHS patient, but the root canals were done by a private specialist. My NHS dentist is kind, patient, and really fantastic. She might be making loads of money - I don!!!8217;t know - but she genuinely cares about her patients. I am in Scotland and realise the system in England is slightly different.

Good luck with everything. Toothache is horrible and I am very glad you are now pain-free.