HPC Escapee Reports Back 10 Years Later

HPC_Ghuol_Hunter

By far my favourite thread over on HPC loon centrum today is this one where an ex-HPC comrade who defied TheCountOfNowhere and bought in 2009. He has now reported back to the deluded on his HPI mad gainz.

Gud times. :beer::j:money::rotfl::T

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/131688-bought/&do=findComment&comment=1103371212

chris_m

I'm not sure which is sadder - being so obsessed that house prices might crash as to participate in a forum site for likeminded obsessives, or being so obsessed about such a site as to perpetually report its activities on a completely different site.

HPC_Ghuol_Hunter

Oh dear it seems that the anger is now palpable against the HPC website:

longgone (HPC Senior Veteran)
"yep priced out now of anything any good. can only look at flats.
so end up in the same place i left 12 years ago although now need to pay twice as much.
wish i never found this BS website."

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/131688-bought/&do=findComment&comment=1103371289


heffsta (HPC Poster)
"Yeah mate, this site has cost me so much money. Still havent got a house. I have given up and just will buy any old sh1te now. The wife is still against buying."

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/131688-bought/&do=findComment&comment=1103371297

westernpromise

I LOLed @ "TheCountWithNowhere"

51mm5

I was just about to post about this thread it's perfect. Get your popcorn out and enjoy. It's a perfect illustration of how deluded and bitter some of those people are.

HPC_Ghuol_Hunter

51mm5 wrote: »

I was just about to post about this thread it's perfect. Get your popcorn out and enjoy. It's a perfect illustration of how deluded and bitter some of those people are.

I am waiting with baited breath for Bruce Spannerman to arrive in the thread with his stock comments re trolls and his mighty Ban Hammer. :eek:

westernpromise

chris_m wrote: »

I'm not sure which is sadder - being so obsessed that house prices might crash as to participate in a forum site for likeminded obsessives, or being so obsessed about such a site as to perpetually report its activities on a completely different site.

It makes perfect sense if you consider that HPC is the exact antithesis of MSE. It is the precise polar opposite. MSE is about thoughtful stewardship of money, thinking ahead and getting as far as possible the same things for less. In aggregate, the MSE philosophy is that if you're sensible in the day to day decisions about small amounts of money, you will acquire good habits around the big ones, and you will inexorably accumulate wealth in spite of yourself.

HPC in contrast could not disagree more. That site exhorts its readers to speculate in the price of the roof over their heads, and to rent for decades in expectation of a price crash that will not begin to refund the cost of all that renting even if it ever occurred. It regards people who grit their teeth and buy as stupid sheeple; it despises day to day economies because what's the point when lizards at the Bank of England literally want to to make everyone poor and then kill them; and so on. It sends its myrmidons out to other sites - Mumsnet, the Telegraph comment pages, this place - to spread its nonsense, it cheers bad news because the readership thinks recessions will cost other people their jobs and make houses cheap, and are thus good. It regards buying Bitcoin as a better call than buying a house and living in it.

It's essentially the west versus the USSR - only one opinion is tolerated, and anyone who voices any contrary sentiment is simply silenced.

Ask yourself how many people have benefited financially from the advice offered here, and then ask yourself the same of HPC. It is basically a force for ill, and as one or two of its victims have noticed, it makes you poorer.

Arklight

westernpromise wrote: »

It makes perfect sense if you consider that HPC is the exact antithesis of MSE. It is the precise polar opposite. MSE is about thoughtful stewardship of money, thinking ahead and getting as far as possible the same things for less. In aggregate, the MSE philosophy is that if you're sensible in the day to day decisions about small amounts of money, you will acquire good habits around the big ones, and you will inexorably accumulate wealth in spite of yourself.

HPC in contrast could not disagree more. That site exhorts its readers to speculate in the price of the roof over their heads, and to rent for decades in expectation of a price crash that will not begin to refund the cost of all that renting even if it ever occurred. It regards people who grit their teeth and buy as stupid sheeple; it despises day to day economies because what's the point when lizards at the Bank of England literally want to to make everyone poor and then kill them; and so on. It sends its myrmidons out to other sites - Mumsnet, the Telegraph comment pages, this place - to spread its nonsense, it cheers bad news because the readership thinks recessions will cost other people their jobs and make houses cheap, and are thus good. It regards buying Bitcoin as a better call than buying a house and living in it.

It's essentially the west versus the USSR - only one opinion is tolerated, and anyone who voices any contrary sentiment is simply silenced.

Ask yourself how many people have benefited financially from the advice offered here, and then ask yourself the same of HPC. It is basically a force for ill, and as one or two of its victims have noticed, it makes you poorer.

At least you're not bitter about it.

westernpromise

The really telling difference between HPC and MSE is this. How often on MSE do you ever read comments like:
"wish i never found this BS website"
"this site has cost me so much money"
"to believe this site's nonsense is to bet your own future"
"ive lost an absolute fortune"
"It`s gone so wrong for me that i really don`t see an upside anymore"
"There are a lot of unhappy people on this site who wish ill on others"

- all of which are to be found in the OP's linked thread.

This says it all about whose perspective is more useful.

silvercar

I thought HPC was for those who had wads of cash in their back pockets, trying to convince others that it was a sensible decision not to buy, thereby reducing the number of buyers and having a downward effect on house prices, at which point they would jump in and buy cheaply.

If that sounds too much like a conspiracy theory, the other option is that the veteran posters there are green eyed monsters who don't want people to buy just because they can't and hope that the lot of the life time renters will improve if their numbers increase.

Graham_Devon

westernpromise wrote: »

The really telling difference between HPC and MSE is this. How often on MSE do you ever read comments like:
"wish i never found this BS website"
"this site has cost me so much money"
"to believe this site's nonsense is to bet your own future"
"ive lost an absolute fortune"
"It`s gone so wrong for me that i really don`t see an upside anymore"
"There are a lot of unhappy people on this site who wish ill on others"

- all of which are to be found in the OP's linked thread.

This says it all about whose perspective is more useful.

Well, a fair few times on the housing board.

However, with this board in particular, it seems people just change their username, or simply claim after the event, they were wise and got out, or in, just at the best possible time. It's always with the benefit of hindsight though.

At least they are honest with themselves and each other.

Secondly, I haven't seen the disdain and hatred of people who have less than others over there. This idea that if you don't have piles of money, you are a loser, scum, or worse. Something which really drags this place down.