Manco issues

NeilCr

Coupon-mad wrote: »

There is no easy answer, but private parking firms are not it!

Well yes, perhaps.



But, again, where someone parks in a manner that is dangerous and highly inconvenient for the majority of people on an estate (and takes no heed of efforts to dissuade) you have to consider all options.

I wonder how posters on this forum would react were they in the situation themselves (and remember this involves the interference of the passage of emergency vehicles and waste disposal trucks)

Redx

send mistercesq a pm and see if he can enlighten you based on the decades that he has dealt with his issues on his retail park, protecting his tenants and doing the wishes of his landlords whilst at the same time deterring the rogue parkers

I appreciate that his is slightly different but the issues are generally the same issues and as you and I have said , there are few examples to point you at , but I knew they were here and I also know there are a few more, its finding them thats the hard part, like finding a needle in an acre full of needles

NeilCr

Coupon-mad wrote: »

There is no easy answer, but private parking firms are not it!

Redx wrote: »

send mistercesq a pm and see if he can enlighten you based on the decades that he has dealt with his issues on his retail park, protecting his tenants and doing the wishes of his landlords whilst at the same time deterring the rogue parkers

I appreciate that his is slightly different but the issues are generally the same issues and as you and I have said , there are few examples to point you at , but I knew they were here and I also know there are a few more, its finding them thats the hard part, like finding a needle in an acre full of needles

Thanks. But, again, as you say it is different. And, we are fine at the moment. "Crosses everything". We are talking about a small resident owned estate with (and I don't know how many times I have to say this) someone who was parking dangerously. Mistercesq had a retail park and had other issues.

And, I fully appreciate that this forum has a particular view about parking companies - which I understand. I hesitated with my initial post and then CM suggested I start my own thread and it has gone from there. If I'm honest (not blaming CM as I'm a grown up) I wish I hadn't. Most people have been fair and reasonable but I still feel I entered a bear pit.

Having said that I'm stuck at home for the next couple of days having a boiler installed so will probably still be here, banging out replies!



Just to add we weren't naive about it and were conscious of the possible problems. It was a last resort.

Redx

I dont see why you think this, every respondent has said they "get it" so there is no need to keep repeating yourself about the issue of it being dangerous or a health and safety issue , so we have no issues with you posting a thread about it as requested and nobody is "getting at you" , its healthy social debate

the regulars on here have already spotted what the issues are and why you posted, they all have sympathy for you and where possible will and have given you advice, do not take us for fools, we have read and understand your issues

mistercesq decided to go down a self ticketing route with their own signs, so my point was that as he has done this for the last 12 months and not updated his post, you could pm him and ask for his views into this thread of yours which could help you

for all you know he could have had rogue parkers near his bins and access road , causing him a health and safety issue for his retailers and staff

do not be so blinkered that you dont see where I am trying to help you , as are the others who replied , you are not the only one with these issues believe me

you have already been told by several respondents there is no easy answer, but your threads is a refreshing change to the SSDD we normally get, as was the mistercesq thread a year ago, that even prankster blogged about

in his thread THE DEEP mentioned about the problems he was facing with his flats etc, and moronic parking , he took a different approach which we do not condone

and the posts by loc123 are from a solicitor who herself has had to learn the ropes on this parking topic, so put forward some legal points

so there is more to his thread and the blog than you give credit for , and he has had (or still has) similar problems to you

keep the thread open , its useful and I for one have no issues with you posting it , better you find out now than have to deal with the legal issues he had further down the line

no easy answer, sorry , so stop looking for one and dont shoot the messengers

Coupon-mad

in his thread THE DEEP mentioned about the problems he was facing with his flats etc, and moronic parking , he took a different approach which we do not condone

Oh yes, wasn't it vehicle skates?

https://www.directsupplyukltd.co.uk/go-jacksvehicle-skates/c107

I think they are legal, not covered by the POFA Schedule 4 ban on clamping/removing.

Redx

and a bit of blocking in and letting tyres down , lol

I live on a council street (cul de sac off a cul de sac) and our bin lorries have troubles getting down here due to inconsiderate parking on the public highway , even though EVERY RESIDENT has a driveway AND a garage

I remember once we had a fire next door (arson) and the firemen had to "bounce" the residents cars out of the way to get down here to put the fire out

the council did nothing about it , lol

**** happens , it is the way it is

as for lugging bins about , I have had a "bad back" due to a condition called AS for over thirty years , so I know all about "bad backs" and wouldnt want anyone to get one from moving large heavy bins about unless its the binmen themselves (as they are paid to do it)

Coupon-mad

AS = ankylosing spondylitis, Redx? I've heard of it but don't know much about it.

Redx

yep, its a form of arthritis, tends to affect people in the neck a lot so they have to turn their whole bodies to look aslant rather than just move their necks like an owl or a cat

others get it in the lumbar region (or both areas) , plus sciatica , and lugging heavy objects or twisting etc can and does aggravate it, and it is covered by the EA2010 act as you probably know already

similar issues occur with spondylosis and others with spond in the names , lol

so I do "get it" with his issues with his back, plus I "get" the issues from bin lorries and fire trucks as I said in my "story" above (albeit narrow public roads here)

maybe (and I am not a legal person) , the MA could purchase that part of land that has these issues on it so they own it and then can do something that deters anyone from parking there, a bit like DAVEY the barrister or Q.C. ?

ie:- buy the road itself as freeholder or whatever and then only "police" that part of the land as a defined area ?

as for geting a boiler fitted, make sure its a Worcester Bosch !! , lol

my elderly neighbour knocked on last night just before midnight and water was pouring out of her no-name boiler, so I had to turn off the main supply and lend buckets etc to catch the stuff until today when British Gas came and sorted her out

NeilCr

Okay.

I get that people are trying to help. And, I'm not looking for a solution as I've made clear on a number of occasions... We are fine now so I really don't need to bother mistercesq to find out whether or not he had the same bins problem we had. I will if our demon driver returns.

I responded to a post on another thread pointing out the issue we had had and, as I say, it snowballed from there. Again, CM suggested I start this thread as they felt it would make an interesting discussion. Which, I guess, it has. It's certainly opened my eyes. I've tried hard to post civilly and I hope I've been successful - although I can see that I slightly upset one poster.

I don't take you for fools - but, you know, you were quite happy to suggest that we were naive. Which, we are not. And I would be interested to know how many of you have been in a similar situation. I wouldn't have done what The Deep did either!



I kept reiterating the danger because, I don't think that anyone has addressed that. I'll not mention it again. Along similar lines perhaps you guys could not stop saying "we get it but there is no easy solution"

I knew that before I posted here!

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Look I am not here for conflict so please accept that I know people are trying to help and appreciate the advice.

NeilCr

Redx wrote: »

yep, its a form of arthritis, tends to affect people in the neck a lot so they have to turn their whole bodies to look aslant rather than just move their necks like an owl or a cat

others get it in the lumbar region (or both areas) , plus sciatica , and lugging heavy objects or twisting etc can and does aggravate it, and it is covered by the EA2010 act as you probably know already

similar issues occur with spondylosis and others with spond in the names , lol

so I do "get it" with his issues with his back, plus I "get" the issues from bin lorries and fire trucks as I said in my "story" above (albeit narrow public roads here)

maybe (and I am not a legal person) , the MA could purchase that part of land that has these issues on it so they own it and then can do something that deters anyone from parking there, a bit like DAVEY the barrister or Q.C. ?

ie:- buy the road itself as freeholder or whatever and then only "police" that part of the land as a defined area ?

as for geting a boiler fitted, make sure its a Worcester Bosch !! , lol

my elderly neighbour knocked on last night just before midnight and water was pouring out of her no-name boiler, so I had to turn off the main supply and lend buckets etc to catch the stuff until today when British Gas came and sorted her out

Naah it's not a Worcester. Can't remember what it is going to be.

I've got arthritis, bashed up discs, sciatica and a curved spine. I'm fine unless I suddenly do a number of small moves. Last time it went it was putting the duvet in the duvet cover which still makes my partner laugh out loud six weeks on.

:rotfl::rotfl:

We do own the land - and the road. And it is this small stretch which we were trying to police - although there are other sections you have to watch out for! We've had a number of opinions but - nothing has worked or is practical. I like injunction but time and cost issues precluded that one.

We had a number of thoughts along the lines you mentioned. One which I know worked for someone on the estate at his work was to "dummy clamp" one of our own vehicles on the offending stretch of road. We thought that might deter but this guy was not put off by anything. We believe he was an estate agent!

Just to add that my last post cross posted with some of yours so please ignore the ""anyone else had the same experience" remarks. Only difference is that, on a private estate, residents look to the directors to sort out issues!