Sent in sick note - do I need to phone every day

Faintlol

Sack him? For what exactly? Absence when covered by a doctor's line? Good luck arguing that one at a tribunal. OP - Do you have any current outstanding warnings for absence?

As far as a reference goes - come 25th May they'll pretty much disappear. GDPR will see to that.

OP, if it's in your terms and conditions/handbook that you have to ring in every day, then that's what you have to do. Nothing you can do about it. Read through your other thread also - did you ever bother putting in a grievance?

NeilCr

Faintlol wrote: »

Sack him? For what exactly? Absence when covered by a doctor's line? Good luck arguing that one at a tribunal. OP - Do you have any current outstanding warnings for absence?

OP's been there less than two years according to one of his previous threads - so not much employment protection.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5824300/private-and-confidential-papers&page=2#topofpage

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marliepanda

NeilCr wrote: »

OP's been there less than two years according to one of his previous threads - so not much employment protection.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5824300/private-and-confidential-papers&page=2#topofpage

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PLus hes made countless unfounded complaints which havent been upheld, refused moves and now is off sick.

Good luck with that

Faintlol

Can't link as on phone but if he's been there for more than 12 months he has more than enough protection. No HR department worth their salt are going to risk getting taken for unfair dismissal when he's so well protected by doctors lines. It's just completely ridiculous to think - there would be literally no defence.

What may end up happening however is they may manage him out through medical unfitness. Or if they really want rid, they'll start disciplining him for minor issues that will eventually build to a case of dismissal just to inability to do the job.

NeilCr

Faintlol wrote: »

Can't link as on phone but if he's been there for more than 12 months he has more than enough protection. No HR department worth their salt are going to risk getting taken for unfair dismissal when he's so well protected by doctors lines. It's just completely ridiculous to think - there would be literally no defence.

What may end up happening however is they may manage him out through medical unfitness. Or if they really want rid, they'll start disciplining him for minor issues that will eventually build to a case of dismissal just to inability to do the job.

It's two years for unfair dismissal except for certain instances which it does not appear the OP meets

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/leaving-a-job/dismissal/check-if-your-dismissal-is-fair/

https://www.gov.uk/dismissal/what-to-do-if-youre-dismissed

marliepanda

Faintlol wrote: »

Can't link as on phone but if he's been there for more than 12 months he has more than enough protection. No HR department worth their salt are going to risk getting taken for unfair dismissal when he's so well protected by doctors lines. It's just completely ridiculous to think - there would be literally no defence.

What may end up happening however is they may manage him out through medical unfitness. Or if they really want rid, they'll start disciplining him for minor issues that will eventually build to a case of dismissal just to inability to do the job.

A fit note is not a carte blanche. It does not offer the OP the protection you think.

Faintlol

Look at the data breach OP mentioned in his previous post. All he has to say is that he told the company he was going to tell the ICO about this (basically whistleblowing) and they've sacked him using the medical grounds as an excuse.

Thanks for that though - I hadn't realised the regulations had been extended in 2012. I work in HR myself but every department I've ever worked in this would never even cross our minds to do. Normally looking at cases like this after 6 months probation.

marliepanda

Faintlol wrote: »

Look at the data breach OP mentioned in his previous post. All he has to say is that he told the company he was going to tell the ICO about this (basically whistleblowing) and they've sacked him using the medical grounds as an excuse.

Thanks for that though - I hadn't realised the regulations had been extended in 2012. I work in HR myself but every department I've ever worked in this would never even cross our minds to do. Normally looking at cases like this after 6 months probation.

Hes going to tell the ICO he rifled through someones elses stuff? Okay. Okay then.

nicechap

Faintlol wrote: »

Sack him? For what exactly? Absence when covered by a doctor's line? Good luck arguing that one at a tribunal. OP - Do you have any current outstanding warnings for absence?

As far as a reference goes - come 25th May they'll pretty much disappear. GDPR will see to that.

OP, if it's in your terms and conditions/handbook that you have to ring in every day, then that's what you have to do. Nothing you can do about it. Read through your other thread also - did you ever bother putting in a grievance?

As others have said, based on OP's posts to date, they can get rid of him without further explanation and he won't have a case to bring to tribunal without risking the £60k his parents are going to give him when he loses and has to pay his employer's legal bill.

Stop feeding the dilemea AI/ Bot and their latest AE.

Faintlol

Where did he rifle through someone else's stuff? Have I missed something here? In one of his other threads he's literally said his colleague on the same band has sent him an email thread with information pertaining to his own personal information? Sickness reasons/DOB etc?

Nicechap did you even read my latest post?

Done with this now. Point still stands. No HR person with half a brain will authorise sacking someone because they've been off with what sounds like stress. Not without a hefty payment anyway.