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Legalities of landlord selling house without infor

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  • anselld
    anselld Posts: 8,691 Forumite
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    Why do you doubt the property is sold? Very bizarre when I've just said it is. Anyway, I'm not here to argue.

    Because if it was sold to an investor it is unlikely you would be under notice. If it is sold to anyone else it would require first to have vacant possession.

    You presumably mean it is sold subject to contract, the point being that contract cannot proceed until you move out. As already said it is up to you to what extent you wish to co-operate with the Vendor in that process.
  • Cheeky_Monkey
    Cheeky_Monkey Posts: 2,072 Forumite
    That's quite funny coming from someone who doesn't have the intellect to understand the answer to their question :rotfl:

    There really was no need for you to have a 'hissy fit' was there. Your question has been answered several times :beer:
  • Fosterdog
    Fosterdog Posts: 4,948 Forumite
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    Oh somebody has nothing to do with his time other than troll forums, how very sad. Get a life mate.

    And there ended any help you wanted to get on the forum, generally when you are the one wanting the benefit of other people's knowledge and experience completely free, it helps to be polite and courteous, or at least not completely obnoxious.

    May I suggest if you want to know your legal position you speak to a qualified legal professional, they go by the term solicitors and charge anywhere from £120 per hour plus VAT for their time.

    Good luck.
  • mrginge
    mrginge Posts: 4,843 Forumite
    Can the landlord legally rent out a house that he already has up for sale without informing the tenant? I have snapshots of it on rightmove with the dates.

    No they can’t.

    Send them the bill for your losses and if they refuse to pay take them to small claims court.
  • elsien
    elsien Posts: 36,615 Forumite
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    Why do you doubt the property is sold? Very bizarre when I've just said it is. Anyway, I'm not here to argue.

    I just want to know whether it is LEGAL to not inform a tenant that a property is up for sale BEFORE they move into it.

    The 6 month contract was sold to me that the landlord would like a minimum of 6 months but would like a longer term let. However, it is only a 6 month contract.

    Yes, I have been served a Form 6A. I don't have any problem moving out, the lady who has bought the place is a lovely lady and I live in a small town, so will not be obstructive regarding that.

    However, I have obviously incurred nearly 400 quids worth of agency fees, internet bill and moving costs and I want to know whether the landlord is obliged to contribute considering he didn't tell me that the house I was living in was up for sale! The house forms part of other houses and a shop and it was therefore up as a commercial property to begin with. It is just my house that has been sold, not to an investor.

    If the landlord wanted a longer term let then they could have given you one. They didn't. You agreed a 6 months contract and that's what you've had.

    P.S. I'm not a landlord.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • pinklady21
    pinklady21 Posts: 870 Forumite
    Why are some posters choosing to turn nasty? This is quite unnecessary. It's a public forum where folks come for advice and assistance. The question was perfectly reasonable and polite. Some of the replies are really quite rude.
    Bad manners and nastiness will simply put people off posting in future, and we will all be the poorer for that.
    It costs nothing to be nice!
  • Tom99
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    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]The nice lady was certainly taking an unusual risk in buying the property if she really wanted vacant possession so posters asking the question as to whether is had really sold, or sold subject to contract, was quite reasonable.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]None of the replies were rude.[/FONT]
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    edited 24 March 2018 at 11:28PM
    The answer to your question, as has already be stated, is yes, it's perfectly legal.

    You were granted a 6 month tenancy, with 6 month's security. Nothing more nor less. The ownership of the property has no impact on that.

    The trouble with your statement that "My landlord has just sold the property I am in" is that many people on this forum use the term 'sold' in different ways.

    1) Often it is is used when a seller accepts an offer from a buyer. (eg see the 1st sentence/1st post here)
    2) Sometimes it is used when they Exchange Contracts.
    3) But the strict legal meaning is that Completion has taken place and ownership has actually transferred.

    People here are querying you, because if

    * the nice lady (buyer) plans to live in the property, she would require 'vacant possession' before 3) above could happen. So that implies the property has not actually been sold yet.

    * on the other hand, if she plans to let the property and be a landlady, it is strange that she wishes to evict you.

    Who served you the Form 6a? Your original landlord, or the new landlady?
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,323 Forumite
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    edited 24 March 2018 at 10:52PM
    You say that you have had to cancel your internet package and incurred costs. Unless moving to a totally different area where someone like Virgin doesn't cover, you can move your deal to your new property. This would at least reduce your costs.

    It is not pleasant to have this happen, but as satisfying as it would be to slap your ex LL round the wrists legally, I am afraid it is something they can do .., sell the house.

    Again, a tremendous unfairness but if you don't move out after the two month's notice and they decide to evict you via the courts, I am afraid you will be paying the court fees. For a possession order and bailiffs warrant its around £500. Just warning you that you could incur costs. But its is correct that you don't HAVE to leave until the bailiffs warrant is presented by a bailiff at the property. Some people say this process could take months (in my case it took about three) which, if sale hasn't been completed could be used by yourself to gain a few concessions like your deposit returned early to make it easier to find a new place. How successful this strategy would be depends on how knowledgeable as to what they can do and how eager the old LL and new LL are to get their grubby paws on where you are living.

    Did they protect the deposit etc? Is it still protected?
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