Valliant or Ideal exclusive

VfM4meplse

Any opinions on the Vokera Easy? I've never heard of it.

I have a Baxi / Worcester myself and understood this to be a brand leader. On this occasion I'm looking for good-enough and reliable.

bris

VfM4meplse wrote: »

Any opinions on the Vokera Easy? I've never heard of it.

I have a Baxi / Worcester myself and understood this to be a brand leader. On this occasion I'm looking for good-enough and reliable.

Well then as an installer and repairer of boilers I can tell you not to believe everything you hear about Worcester. No, I'm not saying they're bad boilers, far from it, it's just that they are simply not the same as they were when they were just Worcester.


I favour the Baxi, Potterton group and the Intergas boilers, no, I know you have never heard of Intergas but they are very good boilers.


I always advise on the best warranty, why buy a boiler with a 3, or 5 year warranty when you can get one with piece of mind for 10. That's about the lifetime of the boiler these days.


Being honest though customers tend to have the I want a Worcester frame of mind and it's hard to change their mind because uncle Jimmy has one and he swears they are the best because his friend Tom told him so.


As for Vokera, I have them in rentals, but then I can fix them myself. They are a budget brand, this is a purchase you want to get right. No is the answer to vokera, their customer support sucks and when I had a out the box fault with a heat exchanger the first thing they did was test the water to make sure it was clean, in other words they wanted to void the warranty.

VfM4meplse

Thanks bris, I appreciate your honest advice.

bris wrote: »

As for Vokera, I have them in rentals, but then I can fix them myself. They are a budget brand, this is a purchase you want to get right. No is the answer to vokera, their customer support sucks and when I had a out the box fault with a heat exchanger the first thing they did was test the water to make sure it was clean, in other words they wanted to void the warranty.

So does Ideal score better than Vokera in your opinion?

bris

VfM4meplse wrote: »

Thanks bris, I appreciate your honest advice.So does Ideal score better than Vokera in your opinion?

Sorry can't answer that, the Ideal logic was a pretty bad boiler, but the logic plus improved on that. Still wouldn't rate them anywhere close to a Vaillant though.


If you have enough in the pot for a Vaillant take it. If you want to save a bit cash then the Glow-Worm boilers are part of the same group and share a lot of parts. The Glow- worm boiler used to be trash until Vaillant took them over, now they are pretty good boilers.

no1catman

I had a Ferroli since 2007, which everybody seems to swear at not 'by'!
Had a couple of problems with it this year, one local company offered a Bosch for £2200. As we couldn't get hold of them to deal with the more recent problem, got another Heating engineer out, he was very helpful.
However his favoured boiler was the Baxi. So, fitted a new Baxi Dual for just over £1900 - impressed too by seeing the layout of the boiler how accessible everything was.

SuzieSue

bris wrote: »

Sorry can't answer that, the Ideal logic was a pretty bad boiler, but the logic plus improved on that. Still wouldn't rate them anywhere close to a Vaillant though.

Does it matter that WB and Vaillant both have aluminium heat exchangers rather than stainless steel (which Viessmann have).

The person trying to sell us a Viessmann said that it made a big difference but I don't know whether he was exaggerating.

Alex1983

All the Vaillant range apart from the new eco fit pure has stainless steel heat exchangers and Worcester give a 10yr warranty on there heat cells, so wouldnt let there worry you too much.

Viessmann has a good reputation but replace parts can be very expensive.

no1catman

I remember my Heating engineer saying that Valiant are very strict that the maintenance schedules are adhered to any slip ups any the warranty could be void!

SuzieSue

Alex1983 wrote: »

All the Vaillant range apart from the new eco fit pure has stainless steel heat exchangers and Worcester give a 10yr warranty on there heat cells, so wouldnt let there worry you too much.

Viessmann has a good reputation but replace parts can be very expensive.

Thanks, he said that Vaillant used to have ss but have recently (in the last couple of months) changed to aluminium.

bris

no1catman wrote: »

I remember my Heating engineer saying that Valiant are very strict that the maintenance schedules are adhered to any slip ups any the warranty could be void!

They all do, miss a service and no warranty. This isn't a secret, if you want to keep a warranty they it needs an annual service for the term of that warranty.