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Cheery's country living adventure

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  • Cheery_Daff
    Cheery_Daff Posts: 17,260 Forumite
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    OK, checked Mr Cheery's state pension forecast.

    He's got 29 full years, currently at £134.18 a week pension, with 9 more years to contribute for a full one (before 2029).

    2019/20 and 2018/19 are full, so presumably 2020/21 will be as he's done nothing different, so that will mean 8 years left.

    2017/18, 16/17, 15/16 and 12/13, they're 'checking to see if it counts towards your pension and will update you when this is finished'. You'd think the checking wouldn't be taking 9 years, but who knows?! If these years DO count, that's another four knocked off, so four left to find.

    There is the option to pay for three 'not full' years - 11/12, 10/11, and 09/10, each wanting £800.80 before April 2023 - apparently he made no contributions in those years, so that's the full class 3 rate. 

    What I don't understand is why some of those self-employed years seem to have counted, and some don't - when all were under the small earnings threshold, and as far as I know he didn't do anything differently re filing tax returns etc.

    Hmm. It looks like the best option for him is to wait for now, and make sure those self-employment contributions get paid each year between now and 2029, which (along with last year) should give the required 9 years. At some point he can ring up and check what's going on with those years that 'might' count, but perhaps not right now since the phone lines seem to be super busy right now...


  • Tescodealqueen
    Tescodealqueen Posts: 1,271 Forumite
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    edited 7 April 2021 at 2:12PM
    Also don't understand why he has 29 full years, but still needs another 9 - I thought the max was 35? 

    Bleurgh.

    Anyway, not something that needs dealing with immediately at any rate!
    Cheery I haven't worked in pensions for several years but a couple of things to think about
    1. The new state pension which came in in 2016 makes a reduction for any "contracted out" pension. I seem to recall you mention  Mr Cheery's employer pension so that will increase what he needs to pay if he wants to get a "full" pension at the rates quoted for State Pension.

    2.If any of the years which are gaps are years where Mr Cheery was self employed you used to get a letter 18months after the end of the relevant tax year giving opportunity to pay. It might be worth asking if he can complete those years with Class 2 self employed stamps as they are cheaper than Class 3 voluntary stamps though I am not sure what the rules are about those these days. It would certainly be worth asking the question.
    3. There are time limitations so checking out sooner rather than later(not suggesting this minute though)
  • Cheery_Daff
    Cheery_Daff Posts: 17,260 Forumite
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    Aha TDQ, yes of course that will be the case with the contracted out pension, And it's quite likely they did send a letter at the time and it was ignored... Will investigate...
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