Evergreen no rake moss remover lawn food

50Twuncle
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Does "EVERGREEN no rake moss Remover Lawn Food" work ?
It seems too good to be true ...
We have a lot of moss in our lawn and this appears to be an easy solution....
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  • DaftyDuck
    DaftyDuck Posts: 4,609 Forumite
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    I don't think any of the "one stop solutions" work long term, but they may make a temporary difference.

    Many lawns have moss, and some of those have a simple solution. Others have virtually none.

    Cutting too short, not feeding the lawn, and not aerating are the commonest faults that are easily treated. Shade, poor drainage, poor soil are, obviously, more difficult.

    Evergreen might help with the former group - but so would directly treating each cause. In the latter group, it might kill the moss, but not help the grass grow.

    It would be cheaper and more effective (albeit harder work) to attack the cause of moss.

    Scarifying, fertilising, aerating and allowing longer growth are key to a good lawn.
  • I used Mo bacter for an organic situation which uses the same bacteria as evergreen no rake moss remover I think. It worked well, the moss disappeared slowly and the fertiliser element was as good as most other fertiliser.
  • 50Twuncle
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    DaftyDuck wrote: »
    I don't think any of the "one stop solutions" work long term, but they may make a temporary difference.

    Many lawns have moss, and some of those have a simple solution. Others have virtually none.

    Cutting too short, not feeding the lawn, and not aerating are the commonest faults that are easily treated. Shade, poor drainage, poor soil are, obviously, more difficult.

    Evergreen might help with the former group - but so would directly treating each cause. In the latter group, it might kill the moss, but not help the grass grow.

    It would be cheaper and more effective (albeit harder work) to attack the cause of moss.

    Scarifying, fertilising, aerating and allowing longer growth are key to a good lawn.

    The grass hasn't been cut since late November - so is quite long now (about 4 inches) - and is in direct sunlight - but is still full of moss
    Anyway - we bought some evergreen and have applied it this afternoon - just before the heavens opened - so hopefully it will help......
  • Gers
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    I used Mo Bacter last year so the grass got a lot better.

    Rain was constant here from August onwards and so the grass could not be cut. It's now not as long as it was, no idea why, perhaps it's just fallen over.

    The soil is always soggy, bad drainage, not much light, north facing etc. Perhaps this year I can crack it. I'll aerate it more and sprinkle on iron sulphate which seems to kill off the moss well.
  • 50Twuncle
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    I know that the instructions said to apply before rain but it has rained almost non-stop since the evergreen was applied - probably will have washed the chemicals away ???
  • glasgowdan
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    It's a granular product and needs rain to dissolve it and work... so no, it won't have washed away, it will have washed into the roots of the grass, into the moss and soil, exactly as it's supposed to.

    "No rake" is just a marketing term and means absolutely nothing. All mosskiller products kill moss... it's up to you if you want to rake it out or leave it to come out over time with regular mowing. If you apply it evenly it works very well. If you apply it by hand or another inaccurate method it will miss loads of patches and not work properly. You need a spreader to apply it. NOT one of those pop open spouts on the box or anyhting else.
  • Justagardener
    Justagardener Posts: 307 Forumite
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    edited 27 November 2018 at 12:24AM
    "No rake" is just a marketing term and means absolutely nothing
    Incorrect. These "No rake moss removers" work over a period of 2-3 weeks, Using a bacillus sp. (bacteria) to consume moss. They work. I have used them.

    These fertilisers/moss removers use high levels of potassium to kill the moss, then the bacteria consumes the broken down moss.
    Most fertilisers utilise high contents of nitrogen to make grass quickly grow and look healthy. Potassium has more of a long term benefit to the grass, giving it strength and health. This is why you will see slower results with "No Rake" high potassium products. If you have the patients these products are better. They will produce stronger grass which will compete with the moss better.
    Some info on it here: https://theperfectgarden.co.uk/how-to-get-rid-of-moss-in-lawns/
    Look for the NPK (nitrogen,phosphorus,potassium) label on the back of your fertiliser packet, every fertiliser has one.
  • glasgowdan
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    MoBacter is a fickle product that many professionals avoid using because results are mixed and need very specific conditions to work really well.

    High Nitrogen feeds are something I also avoid most of the time as I always treat lawns for long term strength, not immediate green-up.
  • Works for me.  We have clay soil and it is pretty shaded on one side.  We had a lot of rain in Winter 2019 befre Spring 2020.  The previous year we had so much moss it was very difficult to get rid off.  Initially I tried the stuff that tutrns it black and spent hours raking it out.   After that I used the evergreen no rake and then again in the autumn and it worked a treat.  Despie the heavy rain, we had very little moss this year and  I have used the "no rake"  this Spring again.  The other thing I did last year was to apply agricultural gypsum that helps drain clay soil.  Hopefully this success will continue.  The other thing I understand is NOT to cut the lawn too short at the end of the growing year as doing that will enable moss and weeds to invade the lawn more easily.  p.s. I am by no means an expert but our lawn looks the best it has in 30 years.
  • silverwhistle
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    Moss is green and soft and is a lovely surface to sit on under the shade of my apple trees when it gets really hot, so I don't bother!
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