Condemning a property

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  • brightontraveller
    brightontraveller Posts: 1,379 Forumite
    edited 26 February 2018 at 1:54PM
    Property laws in respect of condition tend to be more about protecting tenants from slum landlords (HHSRS)Yours is self inflicted, your not a tenant etc ?

    There are demolition, prohibition orders etc they don;t really help you though other than meaning you wouldn't pay council tax for about a year ? If you are over certain age, you suffer certain medical conditions,do you have dependents etc the local authority have an obligations to house you irrespective of contributions , also to bring the home to a certain standard you could try for grants, charities etc some buy till you die firms out there will purchase do it up let you live rent free till you die or at a minimal rent ( there are sharks in that pond though although no different to many that buy to do it up builders ,developers etc seek advice from CAB etc )or sell the property use capitol to rent.
  • bozzy18
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    i would speak to housing and environmental health to explore what options are available for you. there are grants available for disabled people - not just Disabled Facilities Grants but home improvement grants - see link:- https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/moving-and-improving-your-home/help-with-home-improvements/. With regards to benefits - you have been told wrong some benefits are not dependence on NI contributions - I would suggest you go to your local CAB and see what they can do for you. All the best.
    :beer:
  • aardvaak
    aardvaak Posts: 5,834 Forumite
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    Doozergirl wrote: »
    Perhaps it would help to go onto the benefits board and see what you could be entitled to? If you are disabled then I really don't think Nat Ins contributions come into it. This is the UK after all and even though the process may not be easy for you, we do look after the most vulnerable in a better way than giving them absolutley nothing.

    People will buy the house, I'm sure. My company specialises in fixing very broken houses and there's more than just us out there. It's also a building plot for a new house. It has value. What you need to do is start the ball rolling with an estate agent, perhaps one that offers auctions if you're worried there's only a small market for it. The market might be bigger than you think though.

    Either way, it sounds like you need to leave the house if you have no prospect of renovating it yourself. Moving to rented might be an idea but how about getting a valuation first and letting us know how that goes? You might be surprised.

    I don't know much about benefits, but I do about houses. It sounds like you deserve a more comfortable home now and a better time of things. Happy to be a sounding board for you on this thread if you like and want to keep it going.

    Thank you for your post - some things to think about there

    One other problem is there is years of clutter etc., in the property another thing I am sure would put off estate agents & buyers
  • PasturesNew
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    edited 26 February 2018 at 2:11PM
    aardvaak wrote: »
    I have been told can not get benefits as I have very little Nat Ins conts.,

    The trouble with the benefits system is they expect you to go there knowing precisely which ones you're claiming.... it's a trick question, designed to make the truly vulnerable fail .... you didn't ask for the right one.

    They don't "help" .... they like to send you packing.

    Your first job is to go to the Benefits board here to discover what you could claim for, what it's called and why you can't get others in the big list.

    Without knowing anything about benefits or anything, my starting point for you would be that you'd get/not get:

    JSA has two names, people can only get one of them.

    JSA, income-based: As you have no job/income, you could claim as a single person about £72/week.

    JSA, contributions-based: Same amount as above, but you'd not get this if you've not made enough contributions.

    To get JSA you have to be looking for work - by their rules/terms.

    Not well enough: Then you need to get onto the Disability Claiming system and find the names of that to claim (could be all sorts similar to PIP, which is the new name for the old DLA/Disability Living Allowance).

    Council Tax: Without an income you will be able to get some/all of this paid. I think this is a separate claim you get directly from the Council - the Benefits board will know and tell you. You can get the form from the Job Centre, but the claims for JSA and for Council Tax after that point are entirely separate beasts.

    In short, you should expect to come away with at least £72/week and council tax paid. Whether your arthritis is severe enough to qualify for the Disability payments (PIP) is for the system to drag you through to decide.

    Looking for Work: Who will employ you? Nobody'd want you! That isn't the point.... to get JSA you have to look for this mythical work :) Jump through the hoops to get the money. You know you won't get a job - people who WANT a job desperately are failing at interview, so don't worry about that. Just do what the system says you have to do in order to get the money, don't be "down" about not getting a job, you know you won't get one (well, you might, but you don't believe that at the moment, so there's no point me being upbeat/chirpy with you about it as that's annoying).

    Re house: one step at a time, let's get a few bob coming in through the letterbox first....
  • aardvaak
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    The trouble with the benefits system is they expect you to go there knowing precisely which ones you're claiming.... it's a trick question, designed to make the truly vulnerable fail .... you didn't ask for the right one.

    They don't "help" .... they like to send you packing.

    Your first job is to go to the Benefits board here to discover what you could claim for, what it's called and why you can't get others in the big list.

    Without knowing anything about benefits or anything, my starting point for you would be that you'd get/not get:

    JSA has two names, people can only get one of them.

    JSA, income-based: As you have no job/income, you could claim as a single person about £72/week.

    JSA, contributions-based: Same amount as above, but you'd not get this if you've not made enough contributions.

    To get JSA you have to be looking for work - by their rules/terms.

    Not well enough: Then you need to get onto the Disability Claiming system and find the names of that to claim (could be all sorts similar to PIP, which is the new name for the old DLA/Disability Living Allowance).

    Council Tax: Without an income you will be able to get some/all of this paid. I think this is a separate claim you get directly from the Council - the Benefits board will know and tell you. You can get the form from the Job Centre, but the claims for JSA and for Council Tax after that point are entirely separate beasts.

    In short, you should expect to come away with at least £72/week and council tax paid. Whether your arthritis is severe enough to qualify for the Disability payments (PIP) is for the system to drag you through to decide.

    Looking for Work: Who will employ you? Nobody'd want you! That isn't the point.... to get JSA you have to look for this mythical work :) Jump through the hoops to get the money. You know you won't get a job - people who WANT a job desperately are failing at interview, so don't worry about that. Just do what the system says you have to do in order to get the money, don't be "down" about not getting a job, you know you won't get one (well, you might, but you don't believe that at the moment, so there's no point me being upbeat/chirpy with you about it as that's annoying).

    Re house: one step at a time, let's get a few bob coming in through the letterbox first....

    Thank you for your post again a lot to think about there and to action
  • bris
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    You own a house, it's derelict, that's your problem no one else's. It's most likely unmortgageable so you need a cash buyer.


    This house has a value as you own it out right, this value will most likely limit the benefits you can get.


    Selling the house will make you intentionally homeless, this puts you at a huge disadvantage with the council as far as housing goes. This means you will more than likely have to rent privately. Once again the money you make from the house will limit the housing benefits so you are caught in a catch 22 situation.
  • Mojisola
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    aardvaak wrote: »
    I am vulnerable I am disabled with severe arthritus in hips and many other problems

    I have been told can not get benefits as I have very little Nat Ins conts.

    Do you have a social worker?

    Health benefits are not tied to NI contributions but your health-related needs (although some are affected by income).
  • Davesnave
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    edited 26 February 2018 at 3:24PM
    With reference to bris's post above, while the council might not get around to housing you any time soon, there are some housing associations who might, if you are over 55 and have health-related issues.

    My Dad was offered flats in this way, despite being a home owner. He had to wait till he came near the top of the housing list, but it happened.

    You could possibly be helped too, but first you need to apply for housing, probably via the local authority.
  • aardvaak
    aardvaak Posts: 5,834 Forumite
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    Mojisola wrote: »
    Do you have a social worker?

    Health benefits are not tied to NI contributions but your health-related needs (although some are affected by income).

    Do you have a social worker?

    No I don't
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    aardvaak wrote: »
    Do you have a social worker?

    No I don't

    You need someone to help you sort your life out so a referral to Social Services could be useful.

    In some areas you can do this yourself directly; if not, ask your GP to do it.
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