Assent forms, fees and appointment.

john_l_k

Hello all, hoping for some help here as the Gov. and Land Registry web-sites seem to make little sense and I keep going round in circles.

My mother died back in December and left a will with myself as executor and main beneficiary. She owned her own home, registered with land Registry I guess as it was bought around 5 years ago from the local authority (preserved right to buy).
I've applied for, and been granted Probate, and now wish to transfer ownership of the house into my name,

My questions are which forms do I need to fill in for the Land Registry? Is it AS1, AP1 and maybe an ID form?
The second question is what is the fee? Does it depend on the house valuation?
And thirdly, would it be possible for me to take everything I needed to a Land Registry office and do the task all in one go with assistance?
It is a long drive to the nearest one but if it saved me some work it might be the easier option.

Sorry to ask something that's probably ordinarily straight-forward (I did manage Probate without professional help), but I just can't seem to get my head around this procedure.

Yorkshireman99

john_l_k wrote: »

Hello all, hoping for some help here as the Gov. and Land Registry web-sites seem to make little sense and I keep going round in circles.

My mother died back in December and left a will with myself as executor and main beneficiary. She owned her own home, registered with land Registry I guess as it was bought around 5 years ago from the local authority (preserved right to buy).
I've applied for, and been granted Probate, and now wish to transfer ownership of the house into my name,

My questions are which forms do I need to fill in for the Land Registry? Is it AS1, AP1 and maybe an ID form?
The second question is what is the fee? Does it depend on the house valuation?
And thirdly, would it be possible for me to take everything I needed to a Land Registry office and do the task all in one go with assistance?
It is a long drive to the nearest one but if it saved me some work it might be the easier option.

Sorry to ask something that's probably ordinarily straight-forward (I did manage Probate without professional help), but I just can't seem to get my head around this procedure.

The LR representative will be along shortly but AFAIK it is all done by post. They will need an original copy of the probate grant and death certificate.

john_l_k

Thanks for that, I didn't know there was a LR rep on the forum, so that's good.
I'm sure I read something about having to make an appointment if one was to visit an office, so hopefully they can give me more advice when they arrive.

Yorkshireman99

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/hm-land-registry-registration-services-fees

FreeBear

Yorkshireman99 wrote: »

The LR representative will be along shortly but AFAIK it is all done by post. They will need an original copy of the probate grant and death certificate.

As the property has already been registered, all you (should) need is the AS1 - The grant of probate is sufficient proof of ID so you won't need to jump through hoops getting the ID1 completed. I don't recall needing the death cert when I did an assent.

The LR rep will confirm, or you can ring their help line - They are very helpful, but are unable to give legal advice but can guide you through what needs to be filled in.

I had to do a compulsory first registration, so felt it easier to take the bundle of documents in to their local office. Worked out cheaper to jump on the train than sending everything off by royal mail special delivery.

Land_Registry

If you are transferring it as the executor to just yourself as the beneficiary then you'll need to complete and submit form AP1 (application form) and AS1 (transfer deed) along with an official copy of the probate

You don't need ID1 as you are named in the probate.

You say 'main beneficiary' so I assume there are others benefiting from the estate but not involved re the actual ownership of the property. If there is another beneficiary involved, so you will be joint owners, then they would need ID1.

The fee is payable under Scale 2 on the current market value of the property. You don't have to get a full valuation. I suspect you had to supply a figure for probate so use that and add it to the AP1 form in panel 4

We don't offer a counter service where you can come along, submit the forms and we process it there and then.
If ID1s were involved then you can make an appointment and have your IDs verified as appropriate but as it seems that is not needed this should simply be submitted as a postal application

We have a short guide which takes you through a series of Qs when dealin with a deceased's property from a registration perspective. Not sure if you found it on the website but it seems you had everything you needed so were almost there any way

john_l_k

Thank you for your help.
I said "main beneficiary" but to be ,more precise, the house was left to me alone, then whatever left of the estate was to be shared equally between my brother and myself. He actually passed away 3 years ago (no kids) so I guess that's why I said "main"
Scale 2 shows the fee for a property valued at 200k as £60, so I guess that's the total fee?
When I did the valuation for the tax report I did a rough estimate of the value of the house, no professional valuation was made.

I did find different parts of the web-site explaining what to do after death, but seemed to go round in circles and then couldn't find it again.

There is one more question, when I saw one of the forms before (can't remember if it was the AS1 or AP1) it asked for the LR plot number in one of the first boxes. Do I need to register and then find it on the LR site first before I can add this info? It is a house in a town with a full address and postcode, not a plot of land or rural house.

Land_Registry

If the value is between £100,001 and £200,000 then yes the fee is £60

Plot number relate to new builds only so not required. If oyu have not checked the registered title then I would recommend you do to confirm what's on the register and to obtain the title number also which you would add to the forms as well

john_l_k

Done, I've just checked and bought the title and now have the title number.
Thank you again, now hopefully I can get through the forms and submit my application.

john_l_k

Well, several months later and I am back hoping for a bit more advice.
The application in April was returned as the assent couldn't go ahead as there were restrictions on the title. My fault really as I did have a copy of the title before submitting my application, but didn't really read through or understand it.

The restrictions were placed there when my mother bought the house under the preserved right to buy, not by the local authority, as they had already disposed of all the council houses here to another organisation (Worthing Homes) many years ago.
Anyway, I was told I needed a certificate declaring the restrictions could be lifted issued by WH.

WH have now told me they have sent this certificate,to LR, and they have sent me a copy too, via email. Actually, it is more of a declaration on headed paper than a certificate. Hopefully it's enough for LR.

So, my questions are now,
a) how will I know when the restrictions have been lifted, so that I can re-apply? Or will they be lifted when reapplying?
and,
b) LR returned stamped "official copies" of the AS1, and AP1 forms, along with the originals and official copies of the Death certificate, probate etc, To re-apply for for the assent, can I just resend these or do I need to start from scratch?

The £60 application fee was returned with the failed application, so I know I'll have to resend a new cheque to cover the new application.

Oxtonite_62

john_l_k wrote: »

b) LR returned stamped "official copies" of the AS1, and AP1 forms, along with the originals and official copies of the Death certificate, probate etc, To re-apply for for the assent, can I just resend these or do I need to start from scratch?

The £60 application fee was returned with the failed application, so I know I'll have to resend a new cheque to cover the new application.

Hi

I am currently going through the process of resubmitting my AP1 & AS1 forms (following my application being cancelled back in May) and have been advised that I need to start the process from scratch i.e. complete new forms. Unfortunately I didn't take a copy of my original completed forms due to the stress of everything else associated with the bereavement of a close relative.

You are fortunate to have been sent both copies of your original forms. LR sent me a copy of my AS1 but not the AP1 which was the most complicated form to complete. They also did not return my cheque but advised me that they will retain my fee until I am able to reapply.

I telephoned several times to request a copy of my 'completed AP1 form' and to ask why a copy of the AS1 form was sent back to me but not the AP1. Unfortunately, no one at LR could answer my question, however one guy misinterpreted my request and sent me a blank form......very frustrating dealing with the Land Registry!

Good luck!