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Can my dentist do this? Isn't this discrimination?

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  • baza52
    baza52 Posts: 3,029 Forumite
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    I don't care about the money - it is mainly a point of principle. I don't like being treated unfairly as you can probably make out. I've faced a lot of adversity in my life and have come to the conclusion that if you don't stick up for yourself, no one else will.

    I could raise the matter with the GDC but they are a toothless bunch who are not best equipped to deal with discrimination cases.

    so basically the GDC wont entertain your complaint againt a member.
    Ask yourself why.
    I am glad money is not important as i doubt any will be forthcoming.
    Good Night.
  • baza52 wrote: »
    so basically the GDC wont entertain your complaint againt a member.
    Ask yourself why.
    I am glad money is not important as i doubt any will be forthcoming.
    Good Night.

    Have you reported many issues to them or the GMC? I suspect not. Perhaps you should look into the reports that have been written up on them by the likes of the Professional Standards Authority.

    I've had success with litigation before so I wouldn't jump to any more conclusions if I were you.
  • stoozie1
    stoozie1 Posts: 656 Forumite
    I just wanted to add that in the Standards from the GDC which you linked to, writing to the patient is a 'should' not a 'must'. Where the GDC define a must as something which you always do, and a should as something you don't always do.
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  • MrHeisenberg
    MrHeisenberg Posts: 236 Forumite
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    edited 21 February 2018 at 6:34AM
    stoozie1 wrote: »
    I just wanted to add that in the Standards from the GDC which you linked to, writing to the patient is a 'should' not a 'must'. Where the GDC define a must as something which you always do, and a should as something you don't always do.

    So it is okay in your book to just end a professional relationship and not inform the other party?

    "should is used where the duty would not apply in all situations and where there are exceptional
    circumstances outside your control that could affect whether, or how, you can comply with the guidance.
    Should is also used when we are providing an explanation of how you will meet the overriding duty."


    I was really hoping to get some constructive and reasonable comments on this forum, but it seems all that some very cold and judgemental people can manage are insults and belittling comments. A very sad reflection of humanity...

    FOXTROTOSCAR, I've reported your post. I would appreciate it if you and your ilk (e.g. baza52) would remove yourselves from this thread. I've also added you to my ignore list.
  • I'm abandoning this thread - too many rotten apples, so to speak, lurking on this forum for my liking who are clearly incapable of getting basic facts right, having a reasonable debate or following very simple forum rules.
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,929 Ambassador
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    The private dentist only took two x-rays and said there may be something wrong with one of my teeth. I then forwarded his findings to my NHS dentist and asked for their opinion

    Aside from your particular issues, this is interesting.

    Does it mean anyone who has an NHS dentist, can trot off to a private dentist for digital x-rays, then bring them back to the NHS dentist for opinion and treatment?
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  • brook2jack
    brook2jack Posts: 4,563 Forumite
    You can go to a private dentist at any time for any treatment you want.

    However analysis of x Rays is not an exact science and two dentists looking at the same x Rays May have two different opinions.

    They are only of use in conjunction with other tests and clinical findings.

    It is a moot point as to whether digital is better than film x Rays. In terms of quality nothing beats a well developed wet film, however there are so many variables in getting a wet film processed well a digital x Ray gives a more reliable result as the parameters can be tweaked on the software.

    OP has had multiple investigations over many years , including in December CT investigations and cone CT. I believe that he has had a diagnosis a few years ago that he disagreed with and no investigations since by multiple consultants and dentists have pinpointed any other cause.

    It can be frustrating because in many types of medicine answers can not always be forthcoming. Particularly in facial pain where patients often insist on procedures such as tooth extractions which make no difference to the pain or make things worse.

    It is very difficult for the patient but also the professional who is under pressure to do something but faces the sword of litigation if they do the wrong thing. Facial pain is very complex and in cases like this when consultants have discharged people the avenues someone can go down become very limited.
  • But WHY would your dentist discriminate against you because of your disabilities? I doubt you're their only patient with physical or mental health problems.
    More likely your attitude and behaviour has made the dentist feel uncomfortable and need to remove you as a patient.
  • Yeah, I'm with the dentist. I did chuckle at the Barrister at County Court. That and that "I've had success with litigation" were my high points of the thread.
  • Toothsmith
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    You've started 3 threads - all of them about your (v. Complex) dental pain - that may or may not be dental in origin.

    You have consulted with many specialists, and private and NHS dentists. You've also had some pretty good advice on here.

    It is highly likely your chronic pain has no solution. I cannot say that for sure - but if all the people you have seen haven't been able to help - then that is probably the reality.You may well have to just manage it - for which help is available.

    I think it highly unlikely that a random NHS dentist is going to 'cure' you. I think it highly unlikely that implants will 'cure' you, and it is possible that such a treatment might well make things worse.

    It is highly possible that your mouth is not even the problem. You didn't really answer me when I asked if any of the specialists you'd seen had been TMJ/occlusion specialists, as from your other threads, that seems to me to be the only avenue not extensively explored. But good occlusion specialists are not common, and none of them will be working on the NHS..

    Railing against 'the system' is not going to do your stress levels any good - and that could easily make your problems worse too!!. You are not being discriminated against, and winding up local dentists will just come back to bite you if you ever have a proper 'dental' emergency and need real proper basic dental treatment.

    So - don't be bothering a poor coal-face NHS dentist with your highly complex problems. You speak of seeing 'world renown' experts in previous threads - why are you not following up with them?
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
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