Tv / dvd combo

ABH_3

duncan32 wrote: »

Wow. Just checked back in, hoping that someone might have taken the time to reply, and that's far more than I was expecting. So, thanks everyone.There's quite a lot for me to get my teeth into there. Infra-red headphones etc... well, I am not ashamed to admit that I was just thinking of a long lead going around the bedroom! What an old-fashioned guy I am!

I suppose it comes down to how 'fussy' you are regarding the sounds you listen too. If you're something of an audiophile, then you may not be too impressed with the quality of the sound you hear from anything other than listeing to lossless formats and 'the best' sound you can achieve from your devices, in which case you'll need to increase your budget to invest in some good quality cable. Or some good as in £200+ cans.

If you're not too bothered about the sound and can tollerate the odd drop-out in terms of audio, then infra red is an easy option. However, if you like hearing such thigns as explosions in films, or any ounce of 'bass' they may not be for you. Using RF it doesn't seem so noticeable for some reason, could be as the spectrum used for broadcast isn't as busy as IR than RF, but that's just a guess. Best advice, buy what you can afford and see how it fairs with the setup you have.

I think I need to update my expectations somewhat!A seperate DVD and TV is something I was considering, but I was more thinking of the space saving (it will be on the wall). Not sure whether to go with the LCD due to the expense. Am I right in that all it offers over the normal size tv is the fact that it takes up less room? If so, I don't intend spending much time up at the top of my bedroom wall, so shouldn't be a problem.

It doesn't have to be that expensive, indeed you might want to consider some of these setups featuring 32" tv's for £300: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=599673

HTH

Donnie

ABH wrote: »

I suppose it comes down to how 'fussy' you are regarding the sounds you listen too. If you're something of an audiophile, then you may not be too impressed with the quality of the sound you hear from anything other than listeing to lossless formats and 'the best' sound you can achieve from your devices, in which case you'll need to increase your budget to invest in some good quality cable. Or some good as in £200+ cans.

If you're not too bothered about the sound and can tollerate the odd drop-out in terms of audio, then infra red is an easy option. However, if you like hearing such thigns as explosions in films, or any ounce of 'bass' they may not be for you. Using RF it doesn't seem so noticeable for some reason, could be as the spectrum used for broadcast isn't as busy as IR than RF, but that's just a guess. Best advice, buy what you can afford and see how it fairs with the setup you have.



It doesn't have to be that expensive, indeed you might want to consider some of these setups featuring 32" tv's for £300: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=599673

HTH

What on earth is the matter with you?

tv for our bedroom - about 21" with a built in DVD

Now your starting on 32" LCD screens!!

Money saving. Remember?

ABH_3

Donnie wrote: »

What on earth is the matter with you?

Now your starting on 32" LCD screens!!

I'm just providing the OP with some inspiration.

Money saving. Remember?

For all you know Donnie, duncan32 might be a work obcessed millionaire playboy, whose looking for a tv\dvd player for his bedroom who on his nights off or when he's exhausted his chosen 'wife' for the night can relax by watching the tv or a dvd. Then again he may just be an average person looking for some common sense guidance, so what makes more sense:

Looking for a 21" lcd tv, means looking for a 4:3 on average type of screen, so you'll be missing at the least a 3rd of the screen like you did looking at old crt tv's on widescreen broadcasts. Of course there's an exception to most rules and always some 22" tv's like this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-22LS4-Widescreen-Ready-LCD/dp/B000TLRV5W/ref=sr_1_22/202-0680986-2888627?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1192899191&sr=1-22 duncan32 could up his spec to the more average 23" lcd tv, then he'd be looking for something like this: http://audiovisual.kelkoo.co.uk/sbs/100311823/18078192.html of course duncan32 might be thinking 'wait a minute, if I'm spending almost £300 on a small tv... I might have room for something a bit bigger.. but how will I get it on the wall and what might it look like?'.

Or he might not, but at least I've given him some ideas. Infact he might be thinking If I'm going to spend £200 on a dvd player that mounts on a wall, I might be better off investing in a cheap computer... I could put that in the corner of the room and then with the aid of a long cable, connect it to the tv... something like this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Excellent-Cond-MAC-MINI-Original-packaging-loads-S-W_W0QQitemZ260171858785QQihZ016QQcategoryZ101189QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem for instance and then he'd not have to worry about 'multi region' divx\dvd players.

But then of course he may not, but Donnie... between the two of us we've given him some inspiration and alternative options to consider that may or may not match his budget.

Untill next time Donnie

Donnie

You just can't help yourself, can you? You're STILL on about LCD screens, even though they were never mentioned.
He's already written that he doesn't want to go to the expense of an LCD TV.

Of course, in a bedroom, a low profile LCD TV with a built in DVD player would be more aesthetically pleasing, but not necessarily the most practical.

I do have a 21 CRT TV in the small bedroom. It auto-adjusts from 4:3 to 16:9, depending on the material. Has a seperate DVD player on a bracket. That has allowed me to have DVD players that play everything, including MPEG4 via USB and memory cards.
It's a bedroom, one doesn't need a PLASMA screen covering the whole wall.

Don't be despondent. I'm sure someone will pop up soon to ask about advice on LCD screen(without built in DVD players).

ABH_3

Donnie wrote: »

You just can't help yourself, can you? You're STILL on about LCD screens, even though they were never mentioned.
He's already written that he doesn't want to go to the expense of an LCD TV.

Actually he wrote

Not sure whether to go with the LCD due to the expense.

to be pedantic, he didn't say he conclusively has decided against an lcd or a plasma come to think of it. We'll settle on 'flat screen' as I note further down you confusingly included 'plasma' in the discussion

Of course, in a bedroom, a low profile LCD TV with a built in DVD player would be more aesthetically pleasing, but not necessarily the most practical.

Whose to say what would be the most practical, have you seen the OP's bedroom?

I do have a 21 CRT TV in the small bedroom. It auto-adjusts from 4:3 to 16:9, depending on the material. Has a seperate DVD player on a bracket. That has allowed me to have DVD players that play everything, including MPEG4 via USB and memory cards.
It's a bedroom, one doesn't need a PLASMA screen covering the whole wall.

Don't be despondent. I'm sure someone will pop up soon to ask about advice on LCD screen(without built in DVD players).

I'm far from despondent, I'm just giving him some of the many options available. I'm not saying like you seem to be, 'just because I've got x type of tv in the bedroom, it's good enough'. Neither of us have a great deal of insight into the OP's situation, he still may have to run this past his wife, who may decide she doesn't want a tv in the bedroom at all. Or if she accepts one, it may have to be aethetically pleasing and not take up too much floorspace.

You meanwhile Donnie shall just have to accept we have a differing opinion and different options available to us. What maybe acceptable to you, may not be acceptable to someone else. It's a tough lesson, hopefully you'll accept it in the spirit in which it is intended

As for your choice of tv\dvd there seems to be a multiregion hack available here for it: http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks/daewoo-ddt-21h9s/3562 so should the OP decide to go this route, he can at least watch his US dvd's on his new tv.

Donnie

At last, you've posted something useful, in the form of the DVD hack.

When I wrote, "the most practical", it was with reference to the cost/upgrading potential.

When I wrote about the CRT in one of the bedrooms, it was to recount my experience with it and to explain it's capabilities.

As to the OP's

Not sure whether to go with the LCD due to the expense.

... that's says to me that he doesn't want to spend that amount if he can help it.
So no need to bang on about even more expensive LCD TVs than have already been mentioned.

The PLASMA screen mention, was a little joke for you Didn't you get it?

US DVDs?? When did he mention those??

Who is to say what would be the most practical, have you seen the OP's bedroom?

(I've corrected your spelling) I think the fact that he asked about a 21" screen gives us a clue.

Also, since he's asking about a 21" CRT(not a usual size for LCDs), it seems likely that it has already been discussed with his partner.

not take up too much floorspace

He has already stated that it's going up on the wall.

You're just not managing to keep up, are you?


Of course I see this as just friendly banter. It's hardly a world changing subject. I can see that you're enjoying it.

ixwood

What about a bracket with a slot for a dvd player underneath?

And use ebay. Locally, I always see tellys and DVD players going for peanuts.

ABH_3

Donnie wrote: »

At last, you've posted something useful, in the form of the DVD hack.

Well you know Donnie, I try to keep up with current trends, and seeing as you had obviously forgotten to post the dvdhack. I thought I would do it for you.

When I wrote, "the most practical", it was with reference to the cost/upgrading potential.

Oh I see... should have said something sooner

When I wrote about the CRT in one of the bedrooms, it was to recount my experience with it and to explain it's capabilities.

Then why didn't you quote the model number in order to give the OP the benefit of your vast experience, not all cts are equal now are they.

As to the OP's ... that's says to me that he doesn't want to spend that amount if he can help it.

Yes, that maybe a very valid view. However, his wife might say ... I'm not having that thing in my bedroom, however having seen those nice new lcd tvs thanks to that 'ABH' guy on the moneysavingsexpert.com forums I might consider one of those. Not knowing the OP's financial situation, who can categorically say.

So no need to bang on about even more expensive LCD TVs than have already been mentioned.

Meanwhile it says to me exactly what it said, he was 'unsure' that means he's ... well .... 'unsure'. Or it could conceivably mean he's not ran it past his wife yet. Either way, we don't know do we now Donnie. Any assumption on our part would be pure conjecture wouldn't it Donnie.

The PLASMA screen mention, was a little joke for you Didn't you get it?

No it wasn't, you thought that just because I mentioned 'lcd' that I was going to go on about how 'lcd isn't as good as plasma' issue, but I chose not to bite on that one. Or perhaps you weren't paying attention. Either way, you've decided to turn the mere mention of your confusion into a 'joke'.

US DVDs?? When did he mention those??

He mentioned 'burnt' content Donnie, not all available electronics ie: cameras output purely PAL format, some of them would you believe it output NTSC ... I know, I was shocked too. I even hear that you can download content online that's not necessarily available in PAL either. So therefore 'multiregion' capability or 'US DVD's' is sometimes used as a euphamism to encompass both formats. Come along, pay attention.

(I've corrected your spelling)

Thank you, and just the other day you said you didn't have the time... still it's good work, I've made other posts perhaps you can correct any spelling mistakes in them too.

I think the fact that he asked about a 21" screen gives us a clue.

Also, since he's asking about a 21" CRT(not a usual size for LCDs),

That's a very valid point, but whose to say that he didn't know about lcd\plasma and instead concluded that a 'big' screen tv or the most the wall he would likely mount the tv on could bear would be a 21".

it seems likely that it has already been discussed with his partner.

Well let us hope so. Otherwise you're going to be a contributor to their matrimonial disharmony on the grounds you had him buy and bring a dirty great, less than unobtrusive silver monstrosity into the bedroom. I'm not sure you could live with the guilt, you would probably spend the rest of your days frequenting these forums and arguing with yourself!

He has already stated that it's going up on the wall.

So he has, however depending on how high on the wall, it may mean that anything below it is restricted in some fashion. Not so with a 'flatscreen' (remember this means plasma and lcd ... I don't want you getting confused again) as they don't invade the room as much as a crt. Most people would put a tv at the end of the bed, or perhaps in a corner, but then most married couples like to walk around the bed sometimes in virtual darkness without stubbing toes or hitting heads on anything protruding from the walls\ceilings. I imagine you live alone, so this wouldn't be such an issue

You're just not managing to keep up, are you?

I'm keeping up fine, however you seem to be having problems. Here am I sugesting alternative options and there's you saying 'I've got a crt, if it's good enough for me lad, it's good enough for you'.

Of course I see this as just friendly banter. It's hardly a world changing subject. I can see that you're enjoying it.

Too right, but if it was a choice between arguing with some anonymous stranger on the internet or doing a crossword of an evening, I think I would go with the crossword

donnajunkie

ixwood wrote: »

What about a bracket with a slot for a dvd player underneath?

And use ebay. Locally, I always see tellys and DVD players going for peanuts.

this may have already been covered but even if the tv is on the wall does that mean a seperate dvd player has to be on the wall as well? it can be anywhere so long as the cable reaches.

Donnie

ABH wrote: »

Well you know Donnie, I try to keep up with current trends, and seeing as you had obviously forgotten to post the dvdhack. I thought I would do it for you.



Oh I see... should have said something sooner



Then why didn't you quote the model number in order to give the OP the benefit of your vast experience, not all cts are equal now are they.



Yes, that maybe a very valid view. However, his wife might say ... I'm not having that thing in my bedroom, however having seen those nice new lcd tvs thanks to that 'ABH' guy on the moneysavingsexpert.com forums I might consider one of those. Not knowing the OP's financial situation, who can categorically say.



Meanwhile it says to me exactly what it said, he was 'unsure' that means he's ... well .... 'unsure'. Or it could conceivably mean he's not ran it past his wife yet. Either way, we don't know do we now Donnie. Any assumption on our part would be pure conjecture wouldn't it Donnie.



No it wasn't, you thought that just because I mentioned 'lcd' that I was going to go on about how 'lcd isn't as good as plasma' issue, but I chose not to bite on that one. Or perhaps you weren't paying attention. Either way, you've decided to turn the mere mention of your confusion into a 'joke'.



He mentioned 'burnt' content Donnie, not all available electronics ie: cameras output purely PAL format, some of them would you believe it output NTSC ... I know, I was shocked too. I even hear that you can download content online that's not necessarily available in PAL either. So therefore 'multiregion' capability or 'US DVD's' is sometimes used as a euphamism to encompass both formats. Come along, pay attention.



Thank you, and just the other day you said you didn't have the time... still it's good work, I've made other posts perhaps you can correct any spelling mistakes in them too.



That's a very valid point, but whose to say that he didn't know about lcd\plasma and instead concluded that a 'big' screen tv or the most the wall he would likely mount the tv on could bear would be a 21".



Well let us hope so. Otherwise you're going to be a contributor to their matrimonial disharmony on the grounds you had him buy and bring a dirty great, less than unobtrusive silver monstrosity into the bedroom. I'm not sure you could live with the guilt, you would probably spend the rest of your days frequenting these forums and arguing with yourself!



So he has, however depending on how high on the wall, it may mean that anything below it is restricted in some fashion. Not so with a 'flatscreen' (remember this means plasma and lcd ... I don't want you getting confused again) as they don't invade the room as much as a crt. Most people would put a tv at the end of the bed, or perhaps in a corner, but then most married couples like to walk around the bed sometimes in virtual darkness without stubbing toes or hitting heads on anything protruding from the walls\ceilings. I imagine you live alone, so this wouldn't be such an issue



I'm keeping up fine, however you seem to be having problems. Here am I sugesting alternative options and there's you saying 'I've got a crt, if it's good enough for me lad, it's good enough for you'.



Too right, but if it was a choice between arguing with some anonymous stranger on the internet or doing a crossword of an evening, I think I would go with the crossword

After reading that load of nonsense........ you should have gone with the crossword.