Can new employer know when I left previous job

Cpu2007

yes in the CV it says that I still work there but I could always say that the CV wasn't updated.
However I have been in touch with the HR and a few days ago, when they offered me a role they said what's my notice period and I said I'll be free in 4 weeks.
Point is that I led them to believe I am still working

Like I said earlier, I genuinely couldn't work there anymore, the commute was extremely difficult that it was affecting my work life balance and on top of that I didn't like the way they worked there so I resisted as much as could but in september things got really difficult (i guess uni,schools starting and people coming back to work) so I handed my notice and left end of october.
This has nothing to do with salary, i provided this company what i was earning exactly

ps : I see what you mean about salary but then getting a job and then look for another would have looked nice on the cv, i worked in the previous job for 7 months then I get a crap job for a few months and looked for this one afterwards?
it would have been like I changed job 3 times

Destabilising

Basically, you're starting a new employment on a lie. It's never a good thing, especially if you get found out. If they do find out, I'll be surprised if they don't retract the offer, or dismiss you. I'm sure, like with most companies, there'll be something about lying on the application as gross misconduct and a dismissable offence.
It might be best to just come clean with them now.

theroamingnomad

Cpu2007 wrote: »

yes in the CV it says that I still work there but I could always say that the CV wasn't updated.
However I have been in touch with the HR and a few days ago, when they offered me a role they said what's my notice period and I said I'll be free in 4 weeks.
Point is that I led them to believe I am still working

Like I said earlier, I genuinely couldn't work there anymore, the commute was extremely difficult that it was affecting my work life balance and on top of that I didn't like the way they worked there so I resisted as much as could but in september things got really difficult (i guess uni,schools starting and people coming back to work) so I handed my notice and left end of october.
This has nothing to do with salary, i provided this company what i was earning exactly

I would expect to be potentially called out on the conflict between your stated leaving date and the one your previous employer provides. Like someone else mentioned, don't you think they'll want to speak to your most recent employer? That would give them the most up-to-date snapshot of you as a worker.

The commute might have been an issue for you, but I'm not sure that would be considered mitigating circumstances to mislead a potential new employer. The fact is you could have advised HR during that phone call but you decided to perpetuate the lie and give them a fictitious notice period.

Cpu2007

I agree with you guys, I'll see if I can speak to the HR or maybe call the security watchdog that is handling my screening and tell them about this.

TELLIT01

It's up to the prospective employer to decide who to approach for references. Assuming your latest employer is on the list, and you have suggested/stated that you are still employed, they are the most likely to be asked for the reference.
When they reply, stating that you left x months ago, I would expect any job offer to disappear faster than an ice cube in the Sahara desert! If you lie on your CV, how much trust can a prospective employer have?

Cpu2007

There's a lie and lie.
In the IT (and probably other places as well) there's habit of lying about the salary as new companys/recruiter tend to offer a salary based on the previous salary, which is bad as they don't take into account the the skills of the person applying
so I don't consider this a bad lie

I have worked for the previous company and that's not a lie, I didn't lie about my work and role there, just about the fact that I left the company as I wanted to have the opportunity to be interviewed, which might not have happened hadn't I lied about it.

theroamingnomad

A lie is a lie, however you want to try and frame it...

BorisThomson

Cpu2007 wrote: »

There's a lie and lie.
In the IT (and probably other places as well) there's habit of lying about the salary as new companys/recruiter tend to offer a salary based on the previous salary, which is bad as they don't take into account the the skills of the person applying
so I don't consider this a bad lie

I have worked for the previous company and that's not a lie, I didn't lie about my work and role there, just about the fact that I left the company as I wanted to have the opportunity to be interviewed, which might not have happened hadn't I lied about it.

The more you say, the worse you come across.

Would you employ someone that blatantly lies, and then rather than admitting their poor judgement, continues to make up excuses to justify their deceit? How are they ever to trust you?

Cpu2007

BorisThomson wrote: »

The more you say, the worse you come across.

Would you employ someone that blatantly lies, and then rather than admitting their poor judgement, continues to make up excuses to justify their deceit? How are they ever to trust you?

I'm sorry but have you even read all the posts? or are you here just to boost your ego?

I have already said that I'm aware of being wrong but I was being asked why I think I did that and I explained my reasons.

if you don't have anything helpful to stay and here to waste time, don't post anything.

Britnall7700

Nick_C wrote: »

If you still get this new job, providing a P45 would be a giveaway!

No need to provide a P45 to your new employer.

The new employer can just get the new employee to fill out a form from HMRC: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/paye-starter-checklist.