Can new employer know when I left previous job

mr_munchem

Cpu2007 wrote: »

yes in the CV it says that I still work there but I could always say that the CV wasn't updated.
However I have been in touch with the HR and a few days ago, when they offered me a role they said what's my notice period and I said I'll be free in 4 weeks.
Point is that I led them to believe I am still working

Like I said earlier, I genuinely couldn't work there anymore, the commute was extremely difficult that it was affecting my work life balance and on top of that I didn't like the way they worked there so I resisted as much as could but in september things got really difficult (i guess uni,schools starting and people coming back to work) so I handed my notice and left end of october.
This has nothing to do with salary, i provided this company what i was earning exactly

ps : I see what you mean about salary but then getting a job and then look for another would have looked nice on the cv, i worked in the previous job for 7 months then I get a crap job for a few months and looked for this one afterwards?
it would have been like I changed job 3 times

Both employer and employee have a "mutual duty of trust and confidence" - even if this is not uncovered now, if it ever came up during your employment with the new company you would have breached your contract and this could lead to you being without a job!

w00519772

Cpu2007 wrote: »

The reason why I didn't mention this because in the IT sector there seems to be a behaviour of taking advantage of people.

Two things:
One they ask for your previous salary and offer you a new salary based on the previous salary rather than on your skills.
Two: if they know you're out of job, they'll think you're desperate and will not provide you a deal that you would get otherwise.


So the reason for not telling them this is because I didn't want them to take advantage of the situation. I know it's wrong but some companies will simply not even interview you if they know you're not employed

I understand the aspect of reference but I didn't like my manager there as he wouldn't act like one and didn't want to bad mouth him, another reason for not telling I left (commute being the primary and me not liking the way they work there)
So yh, I still have his number but don't feel like asking him if he can be my reference.

I work in the IT sector. I wouldn't say they are taking advantage - they just want to pay you what you are worth and your current salary is the best indication of this.

Cpu2007

mr_munchem wrote: »

Both employer and employee have a "mutual duty of trust and confidence" - even if this is not uncovered now, if it ever came up during your employment with the new company you would have breached your contract and this could lead to you being without a job!

That's true, I guess I was being naive because I knew that I wasn't lying about it to cause damage (e.g to gain higher salary, lie about my role or anything) it was just to secure an interview.

But I can see how this can be misinterpreted and lead people to believe the worse.

I'm gonna write an email to HR and see what they say, I guess you learn these things the hard way.

Cpu2007

w00519772 wrote: »

I work in the IT sector. I wouldn't say they are taking advantage - they just want to pay you what you are worth and your current salary is the best indication of this.

I beg to disagree. In the IT sector, current salary doesn't necessarily reflect a person value and this is widely know in the IT sector (especially the engineering one)

On the other hand, what it indicates is that the recruiter is using your current salary to offer a new rather than using your skills as a baseline.

Matter of fact, companies like BBC, Thales, Rentalcars never asked me for my current salary(and I'm sure big companies like Google, Facebook shows the same level of professionalism), they asked me what salary I was expecting and after the tests told me what they could possibly offer me.

This company I got the offer from did the same, just asked me what I was looking for and despite me being happy with the salary of my previous employment, after going through multiple tests, they decided to offer me more than I asked.

xapprenticex

You're in a crap situation, you put yourself there admittedly and you could possibly lose your job coming clean (or maintaining the lie for longer)

[Deleted User]

Cpu2007 wrote: »

i worked in the previous job for 7 months then I get a crap job for a few months and looked for this one afterwards?
it would have been like I changed job 3 times

Do you know if the was 7 month employer would even give you a reference? Maybe it be would be far better for them to not even respond which I have to say is sometimes your only saving grace.

How soon are they wanting forms filled in.

Could you undo some of the damage by advising you've been let go as soon as your notice has gone in (it happens) and offer to start earlier to find out how exactly how intense these checks are.

agrinnall

Cpu2007 wrote: »

That's true and it was my initial though but I didn't know whether it will have the leaving date or not.

Some IT "professional" you are! Clicking on the link that Boris provided gives you the answer. I did that so I know the answer, but due to your attitude in this thread I can't be bothered to give it to you.

Cpu2007

Thank you guys, appreciate these advise but I think that would be messing with the company even more.

I have filled the forms already and also decided to email the HR that was dealing with my work, explained them everything, why I left(the same as over here)

I actually don't have any problem with them contacting my previous employer (it's not like I was fired or any other serious issue)

So now it's all down to whether they accept my apology or retract the offer.

@Deleted User that's one reason why I didn't want to give a reference, for me leaving a company after 7 months it's a short period and I doubt any manager would give a reference so I never asked in the first place.

I filled the form and it actually asks my employment history as well as any gaps i've taken so I mention this gap, I didn't lie on the form.

pmduk

Cpu2007 wrote: »

No, you didn't read them, you're here just to waste people time. If you read the posts, you wouldn't be leaving stupid commends.

Comments aren't stupid just because they're not what you want to hear.

sangie595

RichardD1970 wrote: »

LOL, sangie595 is one of the preeminent employment experts on this forum and I suspect that they never post just to waste peoples time.

I never post to waste my time. If someone is stupid enough to think that they can lie to an employer, that's their problem. They deserve what they get.