Frump to Fab 2018 - Fabulous Dahhhhlings

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Fingers crossed for your aunt LL.

Did you know Guernsey will also have this provision very shortly - think it will be this month they're voting on it??

The leader of the island has a personal interest in getting this passed by their governing body?/Council? - as one of their relatives is in this position.

So, with that, I imagine we'll soon have it in this country too #fingers crossed.
EDIT; quick google - as I've always vaguely thought of Guernsey as being part of this country. Nope it's a "self-governing dependency of the Crown" - and no I don't know what that is I have to admit....

onedaysomeday

Hi everyone! :j

Just wanted to pop in and update! My mini goals for myself were to avoid drying and straightening my hair everyday since I got it cut to avoid the breakage at the back that I always got, so have been toying with ponytails and buns with my little bit of fringe plaited off to the side and have managed to use the straighteners on my whole head once, and a quick once over on my fringe and ponytail this morning as I let my hair dry naturally last night - much better than at least once a day! My hair is now definitely not getting greasy as quickly now that I'm only washing every other day, so hopefully it will stay in good condition! :T

My other mini goal was to moisturise everyday, which I've done for the most part and my skin feels miles better for it!

I started doing a 30 day shred workout DVD today (despite feeling a little poorly, I needed the good ache after exercise) and nearly quit at one point as it's been that long since I exercised but saw I was at 15 minutes out of 27 and plodded on through best as I could... and I get to do it all again tomorrow! :eek:

Slowly working on myself and feeling better about myself.. hope you all had a lovely bank holiday weekend xx

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Been browsing the YouTube videos again - this time with the question in mind about whether I should take up wearing eye make-up again or no.

I very rarely wore "other" make-up when younger - but always always wore eye make-up.

I had nice eyes and used to get compliments on them - I think it was a combination of the fact they are big eyes and the way I did my make-up.

Found out the name for what seems to have happened to them latterly and seems they've gone a bit "hooded". Right - now I know the name = what's the game? ie what to do about that.

Video channels to date = the self-deluded (they used to be a model years back and think they can do much the same now), the man (who I then saw putting the eye make-up on himself - wasnt quite what I expected I'll admit). But think I might have found a channel that will have useful tips - male/done for women/an optimistic realist (ie by Wayne Goss).

Off to google for face exercises specifically to lift the eyes back up again if possible.......

lessonlearned

Money.....I think Wayne Goss is very good. I picked up quite a few tips watching his videos.

Goodgle Charlotte Rampling. She has hooded eyes, always has had, even when she was young. She is still an attractive woman who is aging well and men have always regarded her as incredibly sexy. They all say it is her eyes that do it for them. Her screen persona was always sexy, dangerous and something of a vamp. There was always a slight suggestion of the dominatrix that appealed to men. And it was all in the eyes.

I mentioned the other day that I have hooded eyes too and that inevitably as I age the upper lids are becoming a bit crepey. Other than an eye lift there is no turning back the clock but you can use products like eye serums and primers under your make up to help.

Google make up for hooded eyes and you will learn techniques to help you open them up a bit. It is easy to make mistakes and make them look worse.

And then just practise. A little tip.....take selfies as you try out different looks and see what works best. I have been doing that quite a bit to help me hone my techniques. Trust me the camera is far less forgiving than a mirror........you will soon see what works best for you. It is all about being objective and honest about what you see.

The thing to remember is that, when we get to a certain age, few of us look our best with a comlletely nude face. A natural looking make up takes skill practice, and yes, quite a few products to help us cheat our way to that youthful glow.....:rotfl:

One final tip.......if you do have hooded eyes do not have Botox on your forehead. :eek: it will make them worse. I tried using frownies for my forehead, they had the same effect. Luckily it was only temporary and my eyes look normal again.

I have never found my hooded eyes to be a problem. Ok I can never look like a wide eyed innocent, never did but there is more to feminity than looking like a doe eyed Disney princess.

The purpose of make up is to enhance your good points and play down the bits you are unhappy with.

I became an expert at this. I was an ugly duckling with a birthmark, hooded eyes and a large !!!8220;intelligent!!!8221;forehead. I learned how to use make up to make the best of a bad job.....My physical imperfections never held me back. My eyes were seen as attractive and people stopped noticing the birthmark.

One thing to remember about aging.......the traditionally pretty doe eyed princesses do not always age well. It is the ones who are striking or quirky that seem to improve with age.

Look at any Hollywood screen goddess and really study them....few of the really long term successful ones were traditionally pretty. Sophia Loren, often voted the worlds most beautiful woman, could never be termed pretty, her features were always too big and strong. Julia Roberts is the same......she can go from downright ugly to truly stunning.

Sandra Bullock, one of the highest paid actors, is not pretty, but she has a beauty that is matchless. I could name dozens, Goldie Hawn, Lauren Bacall, Kathleen Turner, Tina Turner, old old friend Jackie Kennedy, and of course the inimitable Audrey Hepburn.

If you study them closely they are not cutesy pretty, none of them conform to notions of pretty because most of them have very strong features, but they all have their own special brand of attractiveness and beauty.

And here is the point, most of them can look pretty grim without their war paint. Make up is our best friend, it can cover a multitude of sins. Trust me I have real experience of this, among other things learning how to hide my birthmark.

As my darling Aunt S used to say.......

A little bit of powder and a little bit of paint
Can make a thing seem, just what it aint.....:rotfl:

And if you are having a bad day.........tinted spectacles work wonders.....invest in some drop dead gorgeous designer sunglasses.

lessonlearned

Ps money......re those hooded eyes.....if, after trying serums and make up, you are still not happy you can try CACI. It is an electrical treatment.

You can have the whole face done or just the eye area. It.does not hurt but it has quite a strong tingle. You would normally need a course of six treatments spread over two weeks and then a monthly top up treatment. So as you can see a bit of an investment in both time and money but it is an effective treatment.

Southern-Girl

Floss wrote: »

Why a "Welsh" wardrobe and a "capsule" wardrobe, when you live in Wales? Surely it's just one?

I thought this too, Floss!

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LL - will be googling for images of those women to take a looksee.

Am still a bit torn on bothering or no. I would in my home city - but am not sure whether it's worth it or no for a small town like this (ie higher average age group/poorer area/etc). When surrounded by many more people/a much lower average agegroup/wealthier area/etc/etc - then it does feel one needs to. I've been going through Boots website making myself out a list of make-up I'm thinking about. Will think on on that. Might be worth it - even if just from the self-esteem viewpoint.

I know I've got to stop thinking about the fact that my mother is still a striking woman even at her age. The skin has gone crepey and the hair more flyaway - but she does still look good and the evidence is there that she was quite a head-turner when younger (ie she could attract a lot of attention even when she'd got her young children with her:rotfl:). I can remember her looking very good in a bikini too for quite some time. No point in competing with that then...:rotfl:

On the other hand - more to the point would be to bear in mind a work colleague of similar age to myself (ie back before I retired) who seemed to be quite convinced (in her own head) that she was attractive. That had absolutely no basis whatsoever in fact - hair/skin/figure/facial features - nope...most definitely not on any count. Somehow she seemed to convince some men that she was though....just because she thought she was.

EDIT; I have already bought the sunglasses LOL.

lessonlearned

You have hit the nail on the head, convincing yourself and others that you are a head turner is all about confidence. It actually has nothing to do with an inherited beauty gene.

Hopefully something that joining this thread will help you with.

Re the make up thing and indeed, the whole can I really be bothered.

My take is .....you do it (or not) for yourself - for you own pleasure and satisfaction. You should not feel obliged and it should not be to keep up with the Joneses and certainly not to compete with your own mother!!! Although to be fair I can see. How this can come about. A beautiful mother can be a curse.

My own mother was a beauty, a tiny doll like creature, glamourous and being foreign she had that !!!8220;continental chic!!!8221; thing. The exotic other. My sister too is a beauty, taller than mum but not as tall as me. Even now in her mid 50s she is still utterly gorgeous. My father was tall, blond and handsome, with piercing blue eyes like a Viking.

I inherited his height and that was about it. I certainly never inherited my mother!!!8217;s beauty. I was tall, gangly and very plain, even without the birthmark. That was the coup de grace.

I realised I could never aspire to be like my god like parents or compete with the pretty girls at school so I made the best of what I had. I learned how to make myself attractive. I realised I could be striking rather than pretty, I could turn my height and my hour glass figure to my advantage. I could go for dramatic or classy or sex siren depending on my mood.

When the good looks fairy does not stop at your cradle then yes you need to work harder than the pretty girls. I learned that grooming and glamour will get you a long way.

But and I say this with love and affection. You should never, never, never measure yourself against other people. That way lies madness. There will always be women out there who are more beautiful, more sexy, thinner, richer, whatever.

If you want to Improve yourself then go for it..... but only if you are doing it for you. Do not do it to please or gratify others. And seriously, sod the women in the village. It is your life not theirs. Do what makes your heart sing.

maddiemay

I was a very plain (that is being kind to myself) child with bad haircut, quite a tomboy, and had flat feet so did not move gracefully either. I did have good skin and pretty hair, I developed an hour glass figure and learned to use makeup and make the best of myself, for myself. Not an awful lot of money for clothes but found what suited me and have always been good at putting outfits together that looked good.

I wear some makeup most days, but don't feel I always have to have full face on to leave the house, minimum is to pencil my eyebrows, add mascara and lippie or lip gloss. When I went grey I looked very pale and washed out, Wayne Goss tutorials helped and more recently follow the lessons on Look Fabulous Forever, a line of products for 50/60 plus. Tips on the dreaded hooded eye, where to position blusher (higher than for the young things) and absolutely love their matte eyeshadows and the mascara is the best I have ever used at any price range. I find it fun playing with different colours and effects in the privacy of my own bathroom and it only takes a few minutes to remove things that do not work:rotfl:

I will soon be 69 and find that if I wear makeup and colourful accessories with my black warm winter duvet coat I cease to be invisible when shopping etc, I like to smile a lot too. (A few years ago I made eye contact with a guy at the next petrol pump and smiled, he smiled back, as our paths crossed in the filling station shop, he thanked me for my smile and said it had made his day, which until that point had not been great, like please and thank you it costs nothing) If having a rough day a little fake it until you make it can often leave us feeling a little better.

Take care lovely ladies x

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LL - am investigating re CACI facials. I guess it's a toss-up between them and facial exercises for the face?

Fortunately, I did "have it". I was attractive. Not pretty - like my mother. But I was attractive and got "my share of attention". Figure of 36C-26-36 and attractive face. I'd got "boobs" (still got them - though I thought I'd better give up making every neckline a v one etc LOL) and "eyes" and latterly got "cheekbones" (which, hopefully, will re-emerge as the weight comes off).

So it's a question of how much I can "get it back again" - so not quite so much of a challenge I guess.....but a big enough one:(

There does seem to be a noticeable number of beauty salons round here for a small place - though they're more nail bars - but I think there is one that does CACI and am finding out just what the cost would be. Am thinking maybe it would be possible to do a full set of CACI treatments and then do face exercises to "keep it up" thereafter? That being to "get the face back" asap...