Parents seperatibg on bad terms who has the right to stay in the family home.

Comms69

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

That's more than 2 a week, that's a lot.

The truth is the truth, if you feel personally attacked by it rather than horrified and upset, maybe that's something to do with you.

No it's not 'a lot'.


You could say it's too many, and I would agree.


But you said 'a lot of men are abusers'. I'm asking you to define what you claim 'a lot' means.


Because frankly, currently, your own definition means 'a lot' of women are abusers.

Tabbytabitha

thorsoak wrote: »

Last year 113 women were killed by partners in England & Wales and Northern Ireland.

Source: Women's Aid Femicide census.

Whilst in no way intending to play down the issue, that's the figure for women killed by men, not necessarily killed by their partner. The number killed by a current or ex partner is 78.
(Figures from the Femicide census)

Marvel1

How many women abuse their partners? Probably more than statistics would show you

dekaspace

cjdavies wrote: »

How many women abuse their partners? Probably more than statistics would show you

From experience women seem to be more emotionally abusive and manipulative which people don't count or downplay.

borkid

Comms69 wrote: »

So not 'a lot' of men in that statistic.


1 is too many, but generalising half the population by saying 'a lot of men' doesn't seem like it's going to win much support.


Approx 30% of the population are 'relationship aged men' that's more than 20m people.


0.00006% of the demographic.


Now obviously that's death, I can assume injury is much higher. But I would still suggest


The nearest statistic I could find was 26% of women in the UK will experience some form of domestic violence from the age of 16. Which would suggest that the number of perpetrators is actually much lower. (we don't just have 1 partner from 16-death)


It's estimated 40% of victims of domestic abuse are men. It seem not a streatch to use the word's 'a lot' in either characterising both gender, or eliminating the need and using the word 'people'.


Thereby you don't stigmatise the vast majority of men and women who find abuse totally abhorrent.

The perpetrator wouldn't necessarily be a partner though it could be another male relative, dad/ stepdad for instance

Tabbytabitha

borkid wrote: »

The perpetrator wouldn't necessarily be a partner though it could be another male relative, dad/ stepdad for instance

Or, very unfortunately, a son.

Comms69

borkid wrote: »

The perpetrator wouldn't necessarily be a partner though it could be another male relative, dad/ stepdad for instance

True, if it's not included in the stats - im not sure - I suspect it's still a small percentage.

Comms69

cjdavies wrote: »

How many women abuse their partners? Probably more than statistics would show you

Well 40% of victims are men, according to many sources.


However almost all of them do say the figure could be much higher as these incidents are very rarely reported.

Red-Squirrel_2

Comms69 wrote: »

Well 40% of victims are men, according to many sources.


However almost all of them do say the figure could be much higher as these incidents are very rarely reported.

Men are more likely to be perpetrators of abuse when the victim is male too.

Comms69

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

Men are more likely to be perpetrators of abuse when the victim is male too.

I'm not sure that's true. But happy to be corrected - is there source material?