Legal Right To 10 Mbps by 2020

Energize

£30 pm is a bargain for what broadband offers, people pay nearly half that just for a tv licence.

iniltous

Energize wrote: »

£30 pm is a bargain for what broadband offers, people pay nearly half that just for a tv licence.

if you pay £30 a month for broadband, all you are paying for is access, not content, if the content is 'free' you pay for it in other ways ( adverts, collection of personal data etc) if it's paid for content then it's obviously not part of the £30
For your £12 a month for a TV licence you get add free, not tracked TV, Radio and very popular and trusted websites, that's not to say that web access isn't essential these days

phillw

iltisman wrote: »

Fibre would be of no advantage here as the last half mile of copper wire is noisy

You're lucky to have copper, I have aluminium cable insulated with brown paper. The paper breaks down over time, they dig the road up and put a join in. The digging shakes the cables apart further down the road, they add another join.

ADSL hates two things, aluminium and joins.

I can pay 10x for fibre or cable. I just wish for slightly faster ADSL.

Energize

iniltous wrote: »

if you pay £30 a month for broadband, all you are paying for is access, not content, if the content is 'free' you pay for it in other ways ( adverts, collection of personal data etc) if it's paid for content then it's obviously not part of the £30
For your £12 a month for a TV licence you get add free, not tracked TV, Radio and very popular and trusted websites, that's not to say that web access isn't essential these days

The TV licence is a charge for access to terrestrial TV services, some of which are ad funded, some of which are subscription or pay per view etc. Yes some of the fee goes towards producing BBC content, however it is besides the point I was making that broadband internet access is far better value than the TV licence.

If I wanted to compare content I would suggest that Netflix at £6 pm DESTROYS the TV licence, but that's another topic entirely...

onomatopoeia99

Energize wrote: »

If I wanted to compare content I would suggest that Netflix at £6 pm DESTROYS the TV licence, but that's another topic entirely...

I have netflix and I like it. However, it really doesn't compare to what the BBC does, only to one small part, which admittedly it does very well.

iniltous

Energize wrote: »

The TV licence is a charge for access to terrestrial TV services, some of which are ad funded, some of which are subscription or pay per view etc. Yes some of the fee goes towards producing BBC content, however it is besides the point I was making that broadband internet access is far better value than the TV licence.

If I wanted to compare content I would suggest that Netflix at £6 pm DESTROYS the TV licence, but that's another topic entirely...

Thats your opinion, and you are perfectly entitled to it, but the point remains valid, your 'value' £30 broadband access includes no content , the millions of 'free' sites have nothing to do with your ISP ( the BBC sites are amongst the most viewed and trusted) so the £30 you are happy to hand over, is just for Internet access.
I have Netflix, it's great, but I watch way more stuff on broadcast TV , so as these things are subjective, we can both be in our opinion, correct, providing you qualify your statements as your opinion

Energize

Of course it's my opinion, is that something that really needs explicitly stating?! I'm trying to point out that £30 for something that is as essential as broadband is not a lot of money and using the TV licence as an example of a service that people pay for and is arguably far less important than Internet access.