Indigo Hitchin - had ticket, not displayed - private not Railway land

The_Deep

Surely the T&C on the white sign at 51.57.05.39N, 0.15.41.12W are so wordy that in would be unrealistic to require motorists to read them all before parking their cars.


Furthermore, I would be very surprised if this is not railway land.

pappa_golf

OK , time to rub in the "Morton's Fork"

contact the BPA , and ask WHY you have not recieved a POPLa code , give the BPA the full address and enclose scans of there replies

this puts indigo in a funny position

1: failing to issue POPLa code
2: admit that this land comes under bylaws

steve clark Steve.C@britishparking.co.uk

Badgerman

The_Deep wrote: »

Surely the T&C on the white sign at 51.57.05.39N, 0.15.41.12W are so wordy that in would be unrealistic to require motorists to read them all before parking their cars.


Furthermore, I would be very surprised if this is not railway land.

Thanks is that something I can use with POPla? Can Railway land be Private land?

Badgerman

pappa_golf wrote: »

OK , time to rub in the "Morton's Fork"

contact the BPA , and ask WHY you have not recieved a POPLa code , give the BPA the full address and enclose scans of there replies

this puts indigo in a funny position

1: failing to issue POPLa code
2: admit that this land comes under bylaws

steve clark Steve.C@britishparking.co.uk

Thanks so much

Should I say anything to Indigo?

Do I need any formal content to Steve Clark?

Badgerman

Umkomaas wrote: »

When you took your photos, did you get any of the signs?

If you’re passing check out exactly what the signage says - take photos, let us see them.

Thanks, I will pop back and take some pics of the signs.

The_Deep

Surely, railway land is private land.

pappa_golf

Badgerman wrote: »

Thanks so much

Should I say anything to Indigo?

Do I need any formal content to Steve Clark?

no contact with indigo now , they have given result of your appeal

however , the land either comes under railways , no popla code , indigo cannot act (only train Co) and within 6 mths

or

they have failed to issue POPLa code on relivent land


a complaint to steve clark , asking if the land is under bylaw rules or if it comes under POPLa , if POPLa , WHY not popla code

they cannot get out of "we emailed one" as they WROTE to you! (and failed to include one)


in there egerness they have probably made a !!!! up , let the BPA sort it out

fisherjim

Badgerman wrote: »

No POPLA code, just a Penalty notice GTR code

Unless I am mistaken this by definition confirms you have a Penalty Notice issued on behalf of Govia Thameslink Railway, which Indigo cannot enforce themselves, only Thameslink can hence no POPLA code.

It will say private land on the signs, but it belongs to Thameslink not Indigo who like other railway car parks are only (mis)managed by them.

Edit

Indigo have used the term "penalty" in their letter which confirms it is non relevent land, they would be in deep do do if they used that term under normal BPA COP rules!

Badgerman

fisherjim wrote: »

Unless I am mistaken this by definition confirms you have a Penalty Notice issued on behalf of Govia Thameslink Railway, which Indigo cannot enforce themselves, only Thameslink can hence no POPLA code.

It will say private land on the signs, but it belongs to Thameslink not Indigo who like other railway car parks are only (mis)managed by them.

Edit

Indigo have used the term "penalty" in their letter which confirms it is non relevent land, they would be in deep do do if they used that term under normal BPA COP rules!

Thank you so much, just so am clear. Do this mean I do anything else other than ignore Indigo, ignore anything else except CCJ and then email Steve Clark at BPA to ask for a POPLa code and is the land governed by ByLaws?

What does non relevant land mean and anything to do/not do?

Thanks again?

pappa_golf

if the land is owned by the railways , the correct setup would be that they (train Co) take you to court , magistrates court and within 6 mths , if they do this , all monies goes to the goverment , not them

so they hire the likes of indigo to do the dirty work , essentially its a bribe "pay us £xxxc" and we will tell the train co not to take you to court.

for the last few yrs , every time a POPLa appeal has been raised , they have backed down , no POPLa appeal = no chance of court (what court?)

indigo have done a deal with the BPA so that they do not have to issue POPLa codes any more


your job is to get it in black and white , railway land or not via S Clark thwen play the 20 questions hgame by post with indigo to time this out (6 mths)

you will now start getting begging letters from ZZPS who will do the dirty work for them

bide your time , search forum for "bylaws" , and start 2nd class royal mail ping pong