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  • economic
    economic Posts: 3,002 Forumite
    What exectly do you mean when you say you don't want to be a software developer but you want to get into big data / cloud computing / automation? In what sense do you want to 'get into' them?

    C# is a programming language, mostly confined to Windows computers, which allows you to write programs to perform calculations and store, retrieve and present data.

    Java is pretty much the same except it is platform neutral so it runs on Linux and Windows machines for example.

    Python is a higher level scripting language, less powerful, slower, some consider it easier to learn and use. It's very common on Linux machines.

    I am very new to this so apologies if i am just chatting !!!! but i am looking for opportunities that enable me to use simpler languages like python and from what i have been reading python is great for big data and machine learning/ automation (i think even cloud computing?). i have a maths background so i am finding learning python quite easy but i am no means an expert and i literally have like 5 months total programming experience out of my whole lifetime.

    Basically i am trying to understand what kind of jobs can i apply for to use my knowledge in python assuming im at an intermediate level with no practical experience. is my understanding above correct? I do enjoy python and its not me doing it purely for jobs/money etc.
  • ColdIron
    ColdIron Posts: 9,880 Forumite
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    economic wrote: »
    i literally have like 5 months total programming experience out of my whole lifetime.

    Basically i am trying to understand what kind of jobs can i apply for to use my knowledge in python assuming im at an intermediate level with no practical experience
    Slim to none I'm afraid. I'm a recently retired developer and we only employed people with a good CV and proven experience in the specific skill sets (plural) that we required at the time. Occasionally we would take on strongly motivated graduates. Things like Python were 'nice to haves' but far from core. Sorry and all that but you need to be realistic and know what you will be up against
  • economic
    economic Posts: 3,002 Forumite
    edited 10 December 2017 at 10:30PM
    ColdIron wrote: »
    Slim to none I'm afraid. I'm a recently retired developer and we only employed people with a good CV and proven experience in the specific skill sets (plural) that we required at the time. Occasionally we would take on strongly motivated graduates. Things like Python were 'nice to haves' but far from core. Sorry and all that but you need to be realistic and know what you will be up against


    Thanks i thought so but as i said i don't want to be a hardcore developer, but want to do something that uses Python skills. Are you saying there is absolutely no demand for just Python skills?

    At worst i have thought of some projects i can do for myself using Python.
  • Zola.
    Zola. Posts: 2,204 Forumite
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    Not all doom and gloom at all, just look around and drop your cv into loads of good companies. Call the HR departments to make contact or follow up, show you are keen.

    code academy is a good website to learn new skills too... and its free.
  • Prism wrote: »
    Automation in the cloud (AWS/Azure) is typically code lite and is done typically with scritping languages and json templates. Big data is all about R, Hadoop, machine learning. I don't come across C# all that much anymore.

    I think I probably misunderstood "automation" in this context. I was thinking of robots, motion, DAQs, cameras etc and the various flavors of C are used a lot for those.
    “So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.”
  • economic wrote: »
    I am very new to this so apologies if i am just chatting !!!! but i am looking for opportunities that enable me to use simpler languages like python and from what i have been reading python is great for big data and machine learning/ automation (i think even cloud computing?). i have a maths background so i am finding learning python quite easy but i am no means an expert and i literally have like 5 months total programming experience out of my whole lifetime.

    Basically i am trying to understand what kind of jobs can i apply for to use my knowledge in python assuming im at an intermediate level with no practical experience. is my understanding above correct? I do enjoy python and its not me doing it purely for jobs/money etc.

    As said you have little chance of getting into work related to Python. If you are young, have a first or 2.1 from a decent uni then you might get in as a graduate trainee. I don't recommend software development as a career.
  • greenglide
    greenglide Posts: 3,301 Forumite
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    . I don't recommend software development as a career.
    Why not?

    Having been in software development over many, many years (started 1972, retired last year) it was an "interesting" career.

    In my case there was lots of diversification into interesting side shows and spent the later years reprising Cobol design and development on mainframes.

    I do agree that getting into big data, automation, machine learning these days wouldn't be easy without a good degree or a huge helping of luck.
  • economic
    economic Posts: 3,002 Forumite
    greenglide wrote: »
    Why not?

    Having been in software development over many, many years (started 1972, retired last year) it was an "interesting" career.

    In my case there was lots of diversification into interesting side shows and spent the later years reprising Cobol design and development on mainframes.

    I do agree that getting into big data, automation, machine learning these days wouldn't be easy without a good degree or a huge helping of luck.

    Are there jobs for someone like me?
    - 34 years old, maths degree from top uni
    - been in banking for 10 years
    - intermediate level python been learning for 5 months but no practical experience
  • OldMusicGuy
    OldMusicGuy Posts: 1,768 Forumite
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    I wonder what Neil Woodford would advise career-wise.....? We seem to have drifted way off topic here! ;)
  • economic
    economic Posts: 3,002 Forumite
    I wonder what Neil Woodford would advise career-wise.....? We seem to have drifted way off topic here! ;)

    He would advice to call it quits whilst the going is good as a fund manager.
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