Wouod universal Credit know I have a job?

Userbame5000

Really need some advice.

I have been on Universal Credit and have just been offered a job. The nature of the sales role is really unstable, and I've done this kind of stuff before. You're looking at two weeks and being sacked if they feel like it.

My question is this, I dont want to stop claiming until the week before i first get paid. This would mean I am paid my UC AND my job. But is it not the case that UC would know how much I am paid and therefore simply take the UC payment back off me? Or is there no way they would know and I'd therefore best not do this in case they fine me further at a later date/not to mention the obvious moral issues?

I don't wish to game anything. I simply wish to ensure I am not royally shafted.

Thanks

Userbame5000

I also don't get paid for a month in arrears. I feel like I'm going to get screwed. What do I do? Cheers

gettingtheresometime

I think what you'd be planning to do would be classed as benefit fraud.

Userbame5000

Thanks for your reply

I appreciate this.

So.... Is my choice the following...

A) I tell UC and my benefits are stopped, and I am impoverished for two months.

I don't tell UC until the second month, and week before my first salary, and commit fraud.

Why don't I just stab myself in the eye.

sangie595

I'm not sure why you think that tax payers should provide you with a sub - why not ask the employer and then it'll be you that is paying for your sub? When you ask the employer, I'd suggest dropping the attitude. Assuming that you weren't deliberately trolling to get a reaction.

Userbame5000

Sangie. If you were to get off your high horse, and read what I actually wrote, you'd see that I am not asking to be subbed. I made that absolutely clear.

I am simply looking for advice as to how I deal with an issue where I do not get paid for two months. But your spiteful little input means the world, and will be taken on board by anyone and everyone I am sure.

Take care.

TELLIT01

Userbame5000 wrote: »

Sangie. If you were to get off your high horse, and read what I actually wrote, you'd see that I am not asking to be subbed. I made that absolutely clear.

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If you are considering not telling UC until you receive your first paypacket you are doing precisely what sangie suggests - looking at DWP to sub you until you are paid.
I don't know the precise workings of UC but do know it's payment is not a cliff edge like JSA. You need to speak to your work coach on UC to find out what you need to do.

Masomnia

They don't stop your benefits until you are paid, so don't worry. Your UC payments get adjusted when you get paid, so it's not as if they stop it as soon as you declare you've got a job. As HMRC report your earnings to the DWP they will know that you worked in that period; that's the whole idea of the system.

Your adviser will explain it properly, but you won't lose out so it's definitely best to be honest here.

gettingtheresometime

Userbame5000 wrote: »

Thanks for your reply

I appreciate this.

So.... Is my choice the following...

A) I tell UC and my benefits are stopped, and I am impoverished for two months.

I don't tell UC until the second month, and week before my first salary, and commit fraud.

Why don't I just stab myself in the eye.

What I've done when I claimed JSA was to let them know the day I started work, so technically I wasn't committing benefit fraud.

Userbame5000

Hi,

Not if I'm required to pay it back I wouldn't. I do not wish to be subbed.

If my choice is getting royally shafted by an inflexible system or breaking the law to the letter (not necessarily to spirit if I have no intention of doing anything but pay it back straight away), then it is a moral dilemma and not a simple case of doing the right or wrong thing. I have *no* intention of keeping any monies I am not due. None.

Userbame5000

Cheers Masomnia.