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“Rock bottom became the solid foundation on which I rebuilt my life.”

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  • UncannyScot
    UncannyScot Posts: 2,070 Forumite
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    US - Uncannyscott, hope he doesn't mind me saying it :o There where/are many more who have helped me through the really low times too. US just was texting at the moment in time it was needed most saying the right things. Even now. I really do appreciate each and every one of you that has left messages/pm's and texts.

    Sorry Beanie, I totally didn't reply to what you said right. I'm glad things are more settled for you now. But you're right you never know what's around the corner.

    x

    I don't mind at all, I am just so glad that I was able to help.
    I have also "danced with the black dog" experienced depression, anxiety and suicidal thoughts.
    Thanks to caring friends, I was pulled back up from the depths.
    One good thing to come from it all is that having been there and experienced it, knowing exactly what it is like, I have a deep empathy with other folks who are going through it or who have also been there.
    If I can help someone, I will, because sometimes you never know just how much you can do for someone with just a few kind words and letting them know that you are there for them and that you will listen and do what you can to help them.

    It's OK not to be OK - by Haych

    When you feel like you're being stabbed
    And the knife twists deeper and
    and deeper
    tightening its grip
    and the tears are flowing
    flowing faster and faster and they don't seem to end
    and you're drowning in the darkness of the dark, dark night

    When your screams become voiceless...
    When your fingers become numb because you're frozen in fear...
    And you lose hope...
    Lose sleep...
    Lose reason to fight the pain...
    Lose reason...

    Lose sight...
    Of why you ever survived this far...
    And most importantly...
    Why you didn't switch it all off...

    It's because you care,
    It's because you're stronger than you think,
    You're beautiful,
    You're not all those horrible things that people call you,
    You're not a failure because you keep falling,
    You're not a **** up because you ****-things-up
    YOU ARE HUMAN!
    You are perfectly imperfect!

    and now let me tell you the truth that you've been denied of...

    It's okay to not always be okay
    It's okay to care too much and be the reason that you get hurt
    It's okay to lose people, and things you love
    until you have nobody but yourself left...
    We were created weak,
    To find our strengths,

    And because when you feel like you're drowning
    and gasping for air
    all on your own
    when you finally take the choice
    to let yourself be the victim of your pain
    or rise above the waves of your dark dark days
    And learn how to swim
    even if you keep drowning
    if you keep fighting to stay afloat
    you'll forget the pain
    And you'll concentrate on the one thing that matters

    you'll find out that it IS okay to not ALWAYS be OKAY
    You've just got to be brave.
    ________________________________

    ... :A
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    It is important that we know where we come from, because if you do not know where you come from, then you do not know where you are, and if you don't know where you are, then you don't know where you are going. If you don't know where you're going, you're probably going wrong.
    R.I.P. T.P.
  • Chrystal
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    I don't mind at all, I am just so glad that I was able to help.
    I have also "danced with the black dog" experienced depression, anxiety and suicidal thoughts.
    Thanks to caring friends, I was pulled back up from the depths.
    One good thing to come from it all is that having been there and experienced it, knowing exactly what it is like, I have a deep empathy with other folks who are going through it or who have also been there.
    If I can help someone, I will, because sometimes you never know just how much you can do for someone with just a few kind words and letting them know that you are there for them and that you will listen and do what you can to help them.

    It's OK not to be OK - by Haych

    When you feel like you're being stabbed
    And the knife twists deeper and
    and deeper
    tightening its grip
    and the tears are flowing
    flowing faster and faster and they don't seem to end
    and you're drowning in the darkness of the dark, dark night

    When your screams become voiceless...
    When your fingers become numb because you're frozen in fear...
    And you lose hope...
    Lose sleep...
    Lose reason to fight the pain...
    Lose reason...

    Lose sight...
    Of why you ever survived this far...
    And most importantly...
    Why you didn't switch it all off...

    It's because you care,
    It's because you're stronger than you think,
    You're beautiful,
    You're not all those horrible things that people call you,
    You're not a failure because you keep falling,
    You're not a **** up because you ****-things-up
    YOU ARE HUMAN!
    You are perfectly imperfect!

    and now let me tell you the truth that you've been denied of...

    It's okay to not always be okay
    It's okay to care too much and be the reason that you get hurt
    It's okay to lose people, and things you love
    until you have nobody but yourself left...
    We were created weak,
    To find our strengths,

    And because when you feel like you're drowning
    and gasping for air
    all on your own
    when you finally take the choice
    to let yourself be the victim of your pain
    or rise above the waves of your dark dark days
    And learn how to swim
    even if you keep drowning
    if you keep fighting to stay afloat
    you'll forget the pain
    And you'll concentrate on the one thing that matters

    you'll find out that it IS okay to not ALWAYS be OKAY
    You've just got to be brave.
    ________________________________

    ... :A

    I am now in floods of tears, but just want to say thank you for this. XXX
    I Believe.....
    That it isn't always enough, to be forgiven by others.
    Sometimes, you have to learn to forgive yourself.

    Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery
    Today is a gift. That's why it is called the present.

    happiness isn't achieved by getting extra things,
    but by getting rid of the things that make you unhappy
  • jwil
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    That's brilliant news about the housing review :T

    Mental health services are so woefully underfunded in this country. Our police often do a 24 hr tweetathon where they tweet about what they are dealing with. A huge proportion of the calls are about people with mental health issues. It's a disgrace.

    You've been very supportive to me on my diary and I also hate to talk about things. I hope you get the support that you need. xx
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  • You're absolutely right about awareness of MH issues needing to be increased. and also big applause to Rosa and teafor2 for their comments above. One of the issues over the last few years has, I think, been that so many people have been being very gung-ho about it and saying things like "we MUST talk about this!" - which is fantastic *if* you're a talker - if so, then fabulous, way to go, well done you. But what about those who *aren't* talkers - those who feel they'd rather curl up and die in a corner rather than be forced to talk about issues they may have experienced? Those who know, without question, that if they are "open and upfront" about stuff they will find themselves gently sidelined at work, or that friends who they know can;'t cope with stuff like that will move away from them? Or those who simply aren't ready to stick a hand up and say "I've been there"? There are SO many reasons why people might want NOT to talk about this stuff, and making them feel guilty about keeping quiet isn't any more a way forward than scorning someone who IS wanting to talk about it.

    WF it's absolutely fine to talk about stuff on here if you want to - but equally NEVER feel that you in some way "have to" talk about it. If it makes you uncomfortable, makes you feel awkward, or you feel it's "too personal" for a very public space, or even if you just plain don't want to - all those are 100% valid reasons for NOT putting it down. And that applies to absolutely anyone else reading here, too. Bottom line - it's your space, your head, and your call. Talk about it. Or don't. Both equally fine. :kisses3:
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  • RosaBernicia
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    edited 23 January 2019 at 12:21PM
    That's a really good point EH :A:T

    Perhaps I should clarify that I think mental health needs to be talked about in general, quite apart from if people want to be open about their own situation. The more it's mentioned, the more people recognise that problems exist and help can be sought. Even if all any of us had said was 'that poor woman in the news, I wish she'd got help' - it's a tiny mention that help exists and that we see her as needing and deserving that help, just another little chip in changing attitudes.


    Rosa xx
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  • beanielou
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    Hope your appointmebts all go well today :) x
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  • teafor2
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    Good points made my EH and Rosa. And Beanie, you are 100% right, it can seemingly come from nowhere and affect anybody.

    I suppose the bottom line is how to deal with it all is a very personal choice and comes down to what the individual feels comfortable doing. For those who want to talk but struggle to start, a little persistence and gentle probing is sometimes all that's needed to help people open up, but it's a fine line between that and trying to make somebody discuss something they obviously don't want to.

    Hope you're having a good day today Wannabe. Did you go to the HA and sign your new agreement. x
  • WannabeFree
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    Evening,

    Busy day today, Back to back appointments and both of them over run! But they went well and I feel a lot better and have some things to work on. They have helped figure some things out that need working on and seeing from a different point of view. Met with someone for a coffee (I didn't pay) which was a useful conversation and hoping to work on things there. Will make life easier and happier for the smalls too.

    I have so much I want to reply to the MH comments but I'm just having my cuppa then sorting the smalls so I'll be back but I appreciate all the replies.

    I have headache after all the stuff going on today so painkillers and a cuppa before I feed the smalls and get them bathed and things.

    Hope you have all had a lovely day

    x
    “Once you hit rock bottom, that's where you perfectly stand; That's your chance of restarting, but restarting the way.”
  • WannabeFree
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    23/01/19
    Debt
    Council Tax [STRIKE]£137.50[/STRIKE] £26.50
    Rent arrears £1295
    Credit card £0

    Total £1321.50

    Weekly Out - Budget now
    £125 to rent
    £12.50 to Council tax arrears
    £25.60 to this years council tax
    £10 Gas
    £15 Electric
    £11.40 Water
    £5.60 TV License
    £1.25 for phone credit (up to £2.50 from Feb)
    [STRIKE]£7.50 for Virgin[/STRIKE] (Ends this month)

    £3 Snack

    This leaves £30 and odd pence for food and everything else weekly (£36 from Feb)

    2 weeks to go on the CT
    52 weeks to go on the Rent arrears
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  • WannabeFree
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    Today's appointments focused on the 'cutting' people out, pushing them away and breaking off from friendships. This was a target area because of some things going on with the smalls. Anyway it she has given me loads to think about and try to work on. Mainly 'relationships' with people/friends/family doesn't mean I have to lose control of the situation etc. Lots to consider. Need a pen and paper out I think :o

    Also food - We all know where that leads. Still one I'm not there with yet :o

    Anyway I usually leave feeling 'fed up' or low. Not today. I feel ready to face all this head on and make sure I can be the best I can for the smalls and most of all so we can all be happy. (I realise how long some of you have been telling me this :o) I'm not the quickest at listening :o
    “Once you hit rock bottom, that's where you perfectly stand; That's your chance of restarting, but restarting the way.”
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