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“Rock bottom became the solid foundation on which I rebuilt my life.”

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  • WannabeFree
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    US she is literally turning me grey! Old girl is fed Pero SBT dry food and I was hoping pup would too :cool: But we have tried all kinds of dry and wet to get rid of the rubbish one :cool: I always ending up feeling mean when she hasn't eaten and give in :o Maybe I do need to be more firm! Other than the fussy eating she is a star though! We've had no trouble from her. I'm glad we didn't go down the cage/crating her (no objections to those who do it's just not for our house personally)

    Good idea on the juice too. I didn't look at sparkling water in Ald! I must remember too!

    x
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  • Sun_Addict
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    I'm glad it's not just me who doesn't use a crate. When our dog was a puppy we got one as everyone told us to. What a waste of money. Ended up selling it on eBay to someone who needed one for the back of his van to transport his gun dogs to shoots. Our dog is part of the family and she is allowed free run of the house -she's as good as gold and has never chewed or damaged anything.
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  • Eager_Elephant
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    I took one of my dogs to the cancer specialist yesterday and if she has the op they want to do she will need to be crated for 4 weeks.
    This dog is a rescue and often shows signs of having been beaten, she is now about 7 (exact age unknown) and we have to start using a crate. I told them that just wouldn't work for us.

    She is an American Bulldog so quite a large dog, I expect the crate would be as big as my lounge!!
    They suggested buying one and getting her used to it so building up from a few minutes to a few hours - if I am at work for 8 hours a day when would I have the time to do this.

    The op will not save her life but would tell us what stage cancer she has but as I don't want her to have chemo or radiotherapy I cant see any benefit to her having the op. I would rather just enjoy the time she has left.
  • UncannyScot
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    I could never put my girl in a crate. She's family.

    Why would your girl "need" to be crated for four weeks after her op EE? Is it a "recommendation" by the vet? If so I would nod, smile and ignore... ;)
    I personally see no benefit to crating, like Wannabe and Sun Addict my girl is family and my home is her home. She is a rescue as well, thankfully she shows no signs of having been mistreated although she has a strong dislike of big dogs and JRT's for some reason...

    Wannabe - your wee pup is gorgeous and it was great to see the pics of her and your older pup playing together, looks like they are going to have a strong bond there :D
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  • Eager_Elephant
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    Why would your girl "need" to be crated for four weeks after her op EE? Is it a "recommendation" by the vet? If so I would nod, smile and ignore... ;)
    I personally see no benefit to crating, like Wannabe and Sun Addict my girl is family and my home is her home. She is a rescue as well, thankfully she shows no signs of having been mistreated although she has a strong dislike of big dogs and JRT's for some reason...

    The op is on her foot and would involve removal of a large lump and a toe amputation - she would not be allowed to run, jump, climb or anything for 4 weeks minimum.
    If I am at home watching her she would not need to be crated as I can stop her doing all those things but I work full time so the majority of the day she would have to be crated.

    My dogs sleep on my bed so I was also thinking that I would have to sleep downstairs with her as I cant carry a 34kg dog up and down stairs.
    The dogs are also allowed on the sofa so just shutting her downstairs alone wouldnt work as she might jump on the sofa.

    It was bad enough when she had biopsies done as she was bandaged for a few days and then we had to try and keep it dry at all times, she wasnt supposed to be walked out of the garden but she loves walks so much we walked very slowly down the road and back. She appreciated it but wanted to go further and I hate seeing her pityful face when she isnt allowed out.
  • UncannyScot
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    Thanks EE, now I understand...
    Would rather that she was able to enjoy what's left to her too (((((HUGS)))))
    BUGGRITMILLENIUMHANDANDSHRIMP I TOLD EM! - Foul Ole Ron
    It is important that we know where we come from, because if you do not know where you come from, then you do not know where you are, and if you don't know where you are, then you don't know where you are going. If you don't know where you're going, you're probably going wrong.
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  • Morning hun,

    Have a lovely day x
  • Merlin's_Beard
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    I could never put my girl in a crate. She's family.

    Why would your girl "need" to be crated for four weeks after her op EE? Is it a "recommendation" by the vet? If so I would nod, smile and ignore... ;)
    I personally see no benefit to crating, like Wannabe and Sun Addict my girl is family and my home is her home. She is a rescue as well, thankfully she shows no signs of having been mistreated although she has a strong dislike of big dogs and JRT's for some reason...

    Wannabe - your wee pup is gorgeous and it was great to see the pics of her and your older pup playing together, looks like they are going to have a strong bond there :D

    Ignoring vet restrictions post op normally leads to complications and more expensive surgery to fix the damage caused... not very MSE! Strict restriction for that long is normally an orthopaedic type operation, and crating in those cases is more like a person being on bed rest - boring, frustrating but sometimes necessary for healing and long term health! Unfortunately giving an animal a set of crutches and telling them not to put weight on the affected leg is not feasible.
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  • UncannyScot
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    Merlin's Beard - I do agree with what you say and wish to clarify that what I meant was that I wouldn't just crate without a totally valid reason for doing so.
    Hence my asking if there was a "need" to do so, as in was there a totally valid reason for crating after the op and in this instance there is. Vet's and Doctors often make recommendations for treatment which may or may not be viable for their patients and so we as patients or those responsible for those patients would make an informed choice to agree or disagree with the proposed treatment.
    Many folks who do crate do so for their own convenience with little consideration for the dog. EE is obviously considering the overall well-being of her girl in the circumstances, weighing up the pros and cons of it all and I agree with and respect their decision... so there :p
    BUGGRITMILLENIUMHANDANDSHRIMP I TOLD EM! - Foul Ole Ron
    It is important that we know where we come from, because if you do not know where you come from, then you do not know where you are, and if you don't know where you are, then you don't know where you are going. If you don't know where you're going, you're probably going wrong.
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  • WannabeFree
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    My sister has an american bulldog (hes 9 months old now) and he is very happy with his crate. They work shifts and their behaviour classes etc they attend recommended it. It works for them and he is the most spoilt dog in the world! :rotfl:

    It's just something I have never done.
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