Fault on Roundabout.

EssexExile

There are lots of problems with roundabouts where lane markings digress from the norm. There are loads around here & they are a pain. There's a lot going on as you approach a roundabout, lots of signs to take in, lots of traffic to watch, lots of painted instructions on the road that you can't see because there are vehicles on top of them.
Unfamiliar drivers doing the unexpected is to be expected. Always expect them to do the unexpected & all will be well. Usually.

Head_The_Ball

John_peters wrote: »

...Please let me know what you all think.

Regards,

It doesn't really matter what we think; it only matters what the insurance companies think.

Frankly, from what I understand of the situation, I think you were at least 50% to blame. You pulled out in front of a car coming from your right. You should have anticipated the possibility that the car would not necessarily behave as you expected.

That is not what you want to hear but I think you should accept a 50/50 division of blame if that is suggested and learn from the unpleasant experience.

You may have to accept 100% liability. That is down to the insurance companies.

Good luck.

John_peters_2

Warwick_Hunt wrote: »

So he was in the wrong lane, you thought he was going left and pulled out in front of him?

This is correct, the car was in a lane that only goes left (First exit). This lane was also a constant flow of traffic with cars constantly coming off using that exit. I left onto the roundabout not at all expecting a car to come out of his lane cutting across lanes then hitting myself. They did not even indicate to show intentions.

glentoran99

John_peters wrote: »

This is correct, the car was in a lane that only goes left (First exit). This lane was also a constant flow of traffic with cars constantly coming off using that exit. I left onto the roundabout not at all expecting a car to come out of his lane cutting across lanes then hitting myself. They did not even indicate to show intentions.

if he was going straight across he wouldn't be indicating, No left indicator and didn't go left,

Cornucopia

A lot depends on the road markings. Were there hatching lines and/or solid white lines that the other vehicle crossed? Or was it just a left-turn arrow is his lane?

John_peters_2

He did not need to indicate to go left since his lane only went left. However he continued around the the roundabout crossing his lane and not indicating right. In all fairness if the car had indicated right, I would have seen this as a direct hazard and not come onto the roundabout.

I’m just upset that I’m trying to follow road marking and stick to those. What I can’t understand is at what point is ever sensible to cross lanes on a roundabout also undertaking. That very quick decision this car made has cost me a lot. I don’t drive dangerously but feel as though I’m penalised for following the road rules. I did not need to give way to a left only turn on the roundabout. :-(

iammumtoone

In reality if everyone sat at a roundabout waiting just in case a driver decided not to do what their lane indicated they should do, then you would not be able move.

The people in this thread must only go out at the weekend and avoid all work traffic and rush hours.

I am not saying this is a defense for who is at blame but a bit of understanding for the OP would not go a miss, this situation could happen to alot of people who have no choice but to travel at peak/busy times when roundabouts have traffic consistently moving and people rarely using indicators.

BeenThroughItAll

iammumtoone wrote: »

In reality if everyone sat at a roundabout waiting just in case a driver decided not to do what their lane indicated they should do, then you would not be able move.

The people in this thread must only go out at the weekend and avoid all work traffic and rush hours.

I am not saying this is a defense for who is at blame but a bit of understanding for the OP would not go a miss, this situation could happen to alot of people who have no choice but to travel at peak/busy times when roundabouts have traffic consistently moving and people rarely using indicators.

I travel at peak times 5 days a week, crossing at least 11 busy roundabouts in rural, semi-rural and urban environments, on A, B and M classification roads. I don't find it hard not to pull out in front of people.

John_peters_2

iammumtoone wrote: »

In reality if everyone sat at a roundabout waiting just in case a driver decided not to do what their lane indicated they should do, then you would not be able move.

The people in this thread must only go out at the weekend and avoid all work traffic and rush hours.

I am not saying this is a defense for who is at blame but a bit of understanding for the OP would not go a miss, this situation could happen to alot of people who have no choice but to travel at peak/busy times when roundabouts have traffic consistently moving and people rarely using indicators.

Thank you,

This was precisely my argument with my insurance. In all fairness this will most probably be a split liability. I’m not happy about and will continue to argue my case with insurance.

Such a dangerous manuover pulled off on a very small but busy roundabout is incredible. Though I generally feel as though I’m to blame was someone else’s careless intentions to beat traffic.

DUTR

iammumtoone wrote: »

In reality if everyone sat at a roundabout waiting just in case a driver decided not to do what their lane indicated they should do, then you would not be able move.

The people in this thread must only go out at the weekend and avoid all work traffic and rush hours.

I am not saying this is a defense for who is at blame but a bit of understanding for the OP would not go a miss, this situation could happen to alot of people who have no choice but to travel at peak/busy times when roundabouts have traffic consistently moving and people rarely using indicators.

Does it matter if we understand the OP though?
We are not the underwriters, yes I agree, in everyday driving situations people being in the right or wrong position etc is an everyday occurance, driving defensively is always the way,
because irrespective of fault (it's never the posers fault in any thread), there is always plenty of admin agro to follow for years sometimes, prevention is better than cure.