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Elite 11+ shopping and chat thread part 2½

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  • davemorton
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  • Savvybuyer
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    edited 5 October 2018 at 3:37AM
    mhoc wrote: »
    That explains it then.
    I had another look and I can see September 24th but no bonus offer - I vaguely remember one of them Q or TCB putting bonus in a different place but I cant remember where or which one.

    its as bad as savvys lost keys, lost vouchers and lost receipts - nothing is ever where it should be :D

    I've just done one of my Q orders for exactly £6 and I noticed the VAT was £1.01 on the order so now I am worried.
    £1.01 is not 20% of £6 - it should be £1.20
    Maybe I should just aim for £6.20 for the next order to be on the safe side ...

    You are correct there with the keys scares I have had in the past - fortunately not had any of those for a while. I have now finished going through my receipts and vouchers and had a scare along the way as to what mistakes I may have made. I had a voucher without a receipt but it turned out to be a duplicate. So I've kept it, just in case I lose that one voucher (and the half page it is on is now marked "Duplicate"). Trust me to lose some other voucher:rotfl:. After that, I've ended up with a voucher for 39p without a receipt - goodness knows where the receipt is: it is either in all my papers somewhere or under the printer (it's not on the printer, I've checked) and will turn up later, probably bang on cue on 1st November:p or else it's been chucked out/shredded in error along with receipts that gave nowt. I've also got a receipt with no voucher; the receipt probably didn't come up when I was re-entering receipts this month and I probably didn't go back and claim it and print it off - not too much lost though as it should be worth 69p; or maybe there is a receipt around that may turn up, again probably once it is expired.

    I have lost a receipt before - we had the Air wick candles glitch a while back where they were made effectively free. Well, I paid full mbuy price for my two as I lost the receipt and it never turned up:o. That's the only one I now of losing before, as I do try not to lose things that were at the time the key to something valuable.

    EDIT: Having seen my post, I think my sig.'s a bit wordy and might get rid of some of that later. I don't think we should necessarily be buying things that are cheaper but weren't (and still aren't) 10% cheaper and rewarding them for that as the price in effect has now gone up to A's cheaper price which can't be made 10% cheaper than the competitor anymore, unless you have a staff discount which made it better, and still makes it better as you were buying it away from the APG before when there was an APG. I think on price-matched stuff, I'd be inclined to buy from the competitor (even if paying with cash) as there is no extra value in buying from A. I'd save the APGs for stuff that is good value in A, if any of that can be found anymore, that they may not want us really to buy, as the value of the vouchers has been devalued by items going up to A's expensive prices where items aren't 10% cheaper than one competitor or another, unless A have brought their price down since which I haven't yet seen - except one item I've seen where, for most customers, the over 99% that didn't use the APG, they have brought the price down - to price match a recently increased price at Morrisons on SP frozen Chicken Breast Fillets 1Kg and therefore be a price increase for us compared to 10% cheaper net. of before (even 10% cheaper than the increased price became - that's now gone up in price, effectively, from that for us). As, with Morrisons' price increase from £3.50 to £3.65, which A have brought down from £3.82 (or £3.85 or whatever it was - I didn't pay much attention to A prices before) to £3.65 and therefore put up from 10% cheaper than £3.50 to 10% cheaper than £3.65 now to £3.65, Tesco's standard range 1Kg which was still £3.50 became a better comparison. So, if that is still £3.50 in Tesco, Tesco are now cheaper so buy in Tesco!

    On the Asda Honey Nut Corn Flakes 750g, which I managed to get a box in the dying days against Sainsbury's cheaper, that was 10% cheaper than £1.40 which equals 84p per 500g. Sainsbury's was not the best price, Asda was best only with 10% cheaper. That item has now gone up in price in Asda from 10% cheaper than £1.40 (when bought correctly as we would) to £1.45, so buy in Aldi where you now pay a penny more for 500g than Asda used to be. Unless you can find any reduced price boxes in any supermarket, including Asda, which could be cheaper. Same goes with the Chicken Nuggets - now up in price, like every item in the store on which they weren't 10% cheaper than one place or another, from ten per cent off Morrisons' 75p to Asda's own 89p. Buy in Morrisons if they are still 75p, unless you find any reduced price pack anywhere else.

    I'd be tempted to say that most of the grocery items in A have now, for us, effectively risen in price with the ending of APG. It's possibly a bit under half (in other words a vast and substantial number of items in itself) as apparently about half of most people's normal shopping was comparable. I rarely bought non-comparable items unless they were cheap fillers on which A was usually well more than 10% cheaper than a competitor against whom I wasn't comparing and the place I was working against was so vastly overpriced on a lot of comparable items as between A and themselves that it was hard to find items that didn't lose out and the item I was buying thankfully had no equivalent at the competitor. Those items are still good to buy alone in A - items, it felt like few of them, that were (and still are) in their own right more than 10% cheaper than every competitor and are not items on which competitors had special offers at some point (as, when they did, A wasn't 10% cheaper and still isn't but now keeps any difference itself). We may be best waiting for the competitor's special offer and buying at the competitor at that time, certainly if sometimes their offer is cheaper than A. A has now made itself having to be competitive and to better that - as if it does not do so, we may now be shopping elsewhere.

    Anyway, the trouble is that, of the non-comparables, or what formerly was a non-comparable under a now abandoned scheme, there is often or sometimes a different pack size at a competitor that works out cheaper, so A wasn't always the best price and, if there is no change, still isn't. So those items are/have long been best bought elsewhere - nothing comparable to compare from on former APG. What were the comparable items are about half of most people's bigger shopping (or used to be around 100% of my smaller shopping - I never did big shops, always split them into bits against each competitor - still no intention of buying any big shop, only of buying smaller number of items at the best place:rotfl:). Of the comparables, many of them aren't 10% cheaper than one place or another, or at some stage aren't, and all of those many items at 9pm on Wednesday night therefore, I think I'm probably stating the obvious to most people on here, went up in price in A unless A has put its correct shelf price down in price since - I haven't any yet and to be even lower for us would have to be lower than the 10% off price. They may be even lower prices for most people, who were paying the expensive price that we were comparing to a competitor's cheaper price before, but may now be paying a price that is the same as that of a competitor and therefore a price increase for us.

    It's therefore IMO a much worse offer for us. The trouble is that, for most people, something like the APG was complex and they didn't understand it. At the outset of using it, once I knew how to do so, I tried to explain it to someone in RL. Unfortunately I started off by saying first you have to buy 8 items. At that point, they said it was too complex and didn't want to listen any further. Yet again the general British public have, IMO, opted for a worse option that they wrongly may think to be better simply because it is (or seems) straightforward to them and they understand it. They don't realise that a price decrease on the shelf - they don't know the price of anything anyway except loose carrots, milk and a handful of other items - may be higher than 10% off a competitor was, and that, with a PG, there was no incentive for A to reduce its prices, so they probably saw them going up in store and paying for us to use the APG that they didn't use and probably didn't know about (not in their consciousness) by the end stage (prior to the announcement of its ending) - they may have thought A was becoming more expensive (with its expensive mbuy offers of 2 for £4 on yoghurts that cost £1 each elsewhere) and the PG wasn't enough to make them stay (as they didn't understand it or use it), they think of shopping elsewhere, not doing targetted shops, they haven't time to find prices elsewhere even though they are readily available online (in the case of all except Morrisons on still quite a lot of items which I provided on here), may change stores (and then buy all that store's expensive items as well as the offer that they wanted cheaper) and A was losing out - market share declining at some stages despite a PG. Meanwhile A doesn't need to bring its prices down when it had a PG, except it does if people aren't using it and are changing stores to shop elsewhere if they have another store convenient to them (or continue to shop at A if it's the only place). But generally the PG has probably seen increased prices as A could turn round and say "Use the APG and we're 10% cheaper or you get the difference which effectively makes it so", but clearly offering every item for 10% off for everyone is unsustainable, so some people pay a lot more (the over 99% who didn't use the PG) and it was funding us. Now it no longer funds us, but the price for us for many items from A has gone up, even if A has brought one or more of them down to a matched price cheaper for most people but still more expensive for us than the former APG price.

    I've had a look at the Savvy Buys at Asda:eek:, a place I have rarely looked at before (except when shopping rarely at Tesco/Sainsbury's when they had price matching schemes and looking to compare against A but often seeing A's prices and thinking how expensive they were as A was cheaper via the price guarantee once the competitor went on offer). I've found that, for me, there is now virtually nothing worth buying at A. They seem a very expensive supermarket - like every supermarket seems expensive on everything except what they have on good offer.

    A have the Graze bars on 60p, but so has a competitor so we have lost sixpence there. Other items - I used to see a 10% off price when looking at the competitor's price - now I just see A and the competitor price matched:(. I am happier with the Kipling Bakewell Slices at 75p in A, because that's currently well cheaper than every major supermarket; however Tesco were 82p recently and so the 10% cheaper price was nearly 74p, so that's gone up by a penny from A. In addition I've seen Kipling cakes on clearout at 9p cheapest on their BB date and of course there's been glitches before, so they seem rather expensive:rotfl:. We have had it too good previously. Even the 'under £1' items seem dear. They include the sweets on 5 for £1, including Cadbury Fudge. However, we've had that cheaper than that before so it seems too much.

    I think I was used to paying attention to cheaper competitor prices before and didn't realise how expensive A prices are. Now, with no APG, faced with the cold reality of the situation, a number of the so-called SP items therefore also seem very expensive, many of which weren't (are aren't) 10% cheaper than a competitor, usually M (and T before T increased several of its prices or abandoned an Eday Value item of several of them). I used to see the SP Pork Pies and automatically read the £1.20 as 90p as I saw the 10% cheaper than M. Maybe I have got to erase my mind of 10% cheaper:rotfl:. It's not funny for us though as the cost has gone up. Now I see the A price of £1.20:eek: and it looks very expensive when M has its pork pies for £1. The frozen sausages look dear too, thinking about the £1 for 1Kg price at M that came up cheaper and then 10% because A's weight is slightly lower. The trouble is I know the competitor prices and can't bring myself to buy those items from A, knowing that a competitor is cheaper. The problem is my knowledge - sometimes ignorance is bliss. However, where the SP items, ordered in price on msm, made me see the 10% price I was regularly getting, now those A prices stand out as expensive and I see them as expensive A prices. I'm tempted to shout "Everything's gone up in price!"; however it is not literally true. Almost everything I'd have bought before though has effectively, with the withdrawal of the PG, gone up in price. Even the SP Gravy that has gone down from 35p to 20p (irrelevantly, as it was always 18p constant throughout versus M or T on the APG) has therefore gone up for prevously APG customers from 18p to standard A price of 20p.

    I have found one item (or actually a range of items) that is/are on rollback in A and nowhere else has them. I am not going to mention it until I have safely bought it in case A reads this thread and puts the item up in price, particularly when it is now approaching the weekend. I have now looked at a.com and it seems they are still on today, but even so...

    The other items I am buying from A are not in the Savvy Buys at all, or in the under £1 as far as I can see, but are items on which A has regularly been, and still is, more than 10% cheaper than everywhere else (is this irrelevant now? Maybe it is: however, it was the offer of before, so anything worse than that no looks no good). However, I am not buying the Fig Rolls anymore (which used to be sometimes on my Avs T shopping). Even the Fig Rolls, on "staying back" price - cheaper in Tesco! Price increase now for buying in Tesco compared to APG of before at A. Now I am seeing it when I am in the reality of the situation, it makes me wish I had bought far more when the APG was still on. Everything that wasn't 10% cheaper than some place or another, on which A has stayed at the same initial price, is now more expensive. In other words, almost everything I bought when the APG existed. Even if I had bought more with the APG, however, it wouldn't have been any use: besides there is only so much space I could have stockpiled in, I have actually stockpiled to some degree, and it would have been APG voucher to APG voucher (as not 10% cheaper) and would never end up getting rid of APG vouchers so at some point they would have to be spent on something once the APG had gone. But, apart from a few items well more than 10% cheaper than everywhere, on which competitors never went down in price and made the APG the best way (and no good buying at A or anywhere else when A more than 10% cheaper), has nearly every grocery item I'd buy now gone up in price? I shall buy from A the few items on which for me they were (and are) best value without the APG. I certainly shan't be buying as many as eight items anymore on a shop.

    Apparently there are to be price reductions this month, and we shall see what those are. They may be a price reduction for most customers used to paying A's expensive price with the background of a cheaper competitor on the item of which they were unaware, but I think they will be 'reduced' to price match the competitor (in other words, increased for me from 10% cheaper than...). I doubt that, with maybe a rare exception that proves the rule, they will go as low as 10% cheaper and unlikely to be "even lower" than that. Even though they will be able to say they are "even lower" on the prices that the vast majority of people obtained the items for: namely even lower than the full A price of before and now the competitor's price or not quite 10% cheaper. Maybe unfortunately a benchmark that, having been offered to us before, that was the previous price we were obtaning for - now, for us, probably increased to these even lower (for most people) prices. I don't know - maybe I will turn out wrong: the jaffa cakes are now even cheaper. However, I can't keep buying just jaffa cakes and I am now wondering whether the price of jaffa cakes elsewhere has gone down and whether A is now simply matching that.

    Having edited, my edit is now longer. And I started by talking about my sig. being wordy:rotfl:.

    See you later:wave:.
  • Savvybuyer
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    edited 5 October 2018 at 4:28AM
    pippo wrote: »
    First sign of Asperger's keeping your food groups separate, so I've read. ! I'm the same, I now ask if if we order a dinner can you please serve my gravy in a jug, not on the food.

    Not necessarily, I don't keep my food groups separate and we are all different. I am a fussy eater but I don't think I have ever seen the need to separate out my food on the plate or elsewhere. We can line things up sometimes to form patterns such as Lego bricks all in neat order, but I like to think that, if I did that as a child (I don't do it now as an adult), that's just my organisation. What may seem disordered chaos or an untidy desk to other people is actually something where I know where everything is. It is therefore organised: an organised mess maybe but not the disorganisation other people may see (because they don't know my system of where I have ordered things). I'm also sure that some people who don't have Asperger's can also have crowded desks and not just some of those who have this typically interestingly complicated condition that I suspect is too much for many people to understand or ever know. It's not because you can't get your head around it; it's because it is all complex detail. Though not literally:rotfl:.

    I suspect this is a typical Asperger's syndrome response. I've probably confused most people with my detail there. I mean every detail has to be said because failure to give a single one in any way would give, to any extent at all no matter how seemingly immaterial to everyone else, a misleading impression. Typical with that therefore that the syndrome itself is complicated. I am a complex person overall and it's an issue of communication. It's a communication disorder and I can't communicate all the detail succinctly and probably no-one who doesn't have the condition can easily comprehend all the detail as you are focused on gist. That's "good enough" for most people and will pass. Well, not good enough for me who has Asperger's because it isn't strictly and technically correct in every detail. Anyway, I've most probably gone off a tangent, and the point I am trying to make is that I am about complex detail. The syndrome itself is complex so hard to explain - absolutely typical that a complex person should have a syndrome that itself is complex and certainly face-to-face oral communication of all the complex elements of it, unless I am reading a monologue or a written-down essay, would be near impossible as the exact words I wanted to say would not come out right. This is easier in writing believe it or not. It's things like lack of eye contact when I am one of the most truthful people of all (truthful to a fault in this world) but that is perceived by others as shifty. Almost the opposite to people's perception is true. Staring at you. I am not - I am just interested in whether you are giving eye contact. I try to avoid staring at people - people don't like it. Quite a few things of what a person who has Asperger's does, or myself who has it anyway, are the complete opposite to the way a person who doesn't have it is.

    I think I enter a room and see and hear everything. Everything except other people's body language. Other people (who don't have Asperger's - how do I know they don't?, but that's the vast majority) seem to see only other people's body language and be oblivious to everything else in the room. I notice that other people are there, as part of my noticing virtually everything (unless my attention is distracted or I'm concentrating on something specifically); however I have no clue, unless it is absolutely overt such as laughing is happiness, crying tears is sad, what people's body language is saying. It says nothing to me. There is a filter to the non-autistic brain. It filters out the irrelevant (or what is irrelevant to most people). You don't need to hear everything, just what the people around you in your social group conversation are saying (as well as anyone else who is trying to join that conversation, through their body language - in other words I suspect you'll fail to notice and be oblivious as to the presence of the autistic person since they aren't giving any body language or are inadvertently giving opposite body language when they intend to give none at all as they don't have any knowledge of any to give). For me however the 'irrelevant' isn't irrelevant as everything has its relevance or use in some context (maybe transferring from context to context is difficult or not understood fully by me or maybe only after I've learned it as there is an element of context blindness, in theory anyway: I have actively to think about things that are obvious to you): I therefore pick up on everything whether relevant or not as all of it is relevant, there is no filter - it doesn't overwhelm me as perhaps I am used to it and that is how I have always experienced the world, but some autistic people have problems with fluorescent lights, as they can hear the flickering or see flickering that you (and I) can't, or sensory problems and noise and both oversenstivity and undersensitivity - for me, I may hear everything around me (I have no idea how anyone else perceives the world) but it doesn't overwhelm me as my brain can cope with the vast amount of information that it always gets (I don't want to sound pompous or more important when I am not - just that it gets that whilst you probably just get what is, to most people, relevant - namely the body language of the people around you, the precise and only thing that I don't see - so, in that sense, another aspect where what I see, I suspect, is the complete opposite of 'everyone' else or at least opposite of people who don't have an autistic spectrum condition and it affects us all differently).

    I've interpreted people's body language sometimes (two rare occasions I can think of) the complete opposite to what it actually means.

    I have thought there are a number of ways in which Asperger's people seem to be the opposite to those without. Those I have mentioned and there are a few others that I can't at the moment remember off the top of my head what they were. It sometimes results in perception of me as meaning or being the opposite of what I actually mean or am. And there is no way to correct some, or maybe almost all, of it as it is subconsciously perceived by the other person, so they are not even consciously aware that they are perceiving me this way. So even if you'd need to make adjustments to your perception of me, it is impossible for you to do so since you are not even aware of when you have those perceptions so unable to know that you are perceiving in a way that is incorrect or should be adjusted. The ultimate conundrum! I've said before on this thread somewhere - totally non-moneysaving again:rotfl: - that - and I must admit I sometimes get a bit of mischievous enjoyment of this, but I don't do it deliberately (honestly:rotfl:), the world doesn't quite know how to deal with people like me. The "problem" is that I am not outright wrong, don't contravene any social standards and don't break any laws (whilst the vast majority of people do and seem almost never to comply with absolutely every law on every occasion - claim to be law-abiding but the vast majority break the speed limit - Asperger's are about the only ones that stick to the speed limit (which is a dangerous thing to do when 'no-one else' does - I have to pull over into left-hand lanes, when it is safe, to let others wishing to speed pass me)) - there is therefore nothing that society can say is wrong but I am not quite right (according to the way most people behave, in their illogical, inconsistent and rather irrational way - not that I can't be inconsistent at times but I would almost always know it - in other words, not know it all the time and, therefore, inconsistently, sometimes know it and sometimes not:rotfl:).
  • pippo wrote: »
    First sign of Asperger's keeping your food groups separate, so I've read. ! I'm the same, I now ask if if we order a dinner can you please serve my gravy in a jug, not on the food.
    Can I also say that "first signs of Asperger's" to me makes it feel like "it's the first signs of the flu". As in, Asperger's is a disease that you catch, it is not, is a syndrome that you are born with, as in my ginger hair. Asperger's is complex and there are similarities between those who have it. Notice. I do not say "suffer" from it, I personally find it a bit insulting for people to assume that a difference between people can be described as "suffering", I prefer "He has Asperger's" rather than "He suffers from Asperger's". Maybe a moot point, but one that I have quite a strong opinion about.
    Savvybuyer wrote: »
    Not necessarily, I don't keep my food groups separate and we are all different. I am a fussy eater but I don't think I have ever seen the need to separate out my food on the plate or elsewhere. We can line things up sometimes to form patterns such as Lego bricks all in neat order, but I like to think that, if I did that as a child (I don't do it now as an adult), that's just my organisation. What may seem disordered chaos or an untidy desk to other people is actually something where I know where everything is. It is therefore organised: an organised mess maybe but not the disorganisation other people may see (because they don't know my system of where I have ordered things). I'm also sure that some people who don't have Asperger's can also have crowded desks and not just some of those who have this typically interestingly complicated condition that I suspect is too much for many people to understand or ever know. It's not because you can't get your head around it; it's because it is all complex detail. Though not literally:rotfl:.

    I suspect this is a typical Asperger's syndrome response. I've probably confused most people with my detail there. I mean every detail has to be said because failure to give a single one in any way would give, to any extent at all no matter how seemingly immaterial to everyone else, a misleading impression. Typical with that therefore that the syndrome itself is complicated. I am a complex person overall and it's an issue of communication. It's a communication disorder and I can't communicate all the detail succinctly and probably no-one who doesn't have the condition can easily comprehend all the detail as you are focused on gist. That's "good enough" for most people and will pass. Well, not good enough for me who has Asperger's because it isn't strictly and technically correct in every detail. Anyway, I've most probably gone off a tangent, and the point I am trying to make is that I am about complex detail. The syndrome itself is complex so hard to explain - absolutely typical that a complex person should have a syndrome that itself is complex and certainly face-to-face oral communication of all the complex elements of it, unless I am reading a monologue or a written-down essay, would be near impossible as the exact words I wanted to say would not come out right. This is easier in writing believe it or not. It's things like lack of eye contact when I am one of the most truthful people of all (truthful to a fault in this world) but that is perceived by others as shifty. Almost the opposite to people's perception is true. Staring at you. I am not - I am just interested in whether you are giving eye contact. I try to avoid staring at people - people don't like it. Quite a few things of what a person who has Asperger's does, or myself who has it anyway, are the complete opposite to the way a person who doesn't have it is.

    I think I enter a room and see and hear everything. Everything except other people's body language. Other people (who don't have Asperger's - how do I know they don't?, but that's the vast majority) seem to see only other people's body language and be oblivious to everything else in the room. I notice that other people are there, as part of my noticing virtually everything (unless my attention is distracted or I'm concentrating on something specifically); however I have no clue, unless it is absolutely overt such as laughing is happiness, crying tears is sad, what people's body language is saying. It says nothing to me. There is a filter to the non-autistic brain. It filters out the irrelevant (or what is irrelevant to most people). You don't need to hear everything, just what the people around you in your social group conversation are saying (as well as anyone else who is trying to join that conversation, through their body language - in other words I suspect you'll fail to notice and be oblivious as to the presence of the autistic person since they aren't giving any body language or are inadvertently giving opposite body language when they intend to give none at all as they don't have any knowledge of any to give). For me however the 'irrelevant' isn't irrelevant as everything has its relevance or use in some context (maybe transferring from context to context is difficult or not understood fully by me or maybe only after I've learned it as there is an element of context blindness, in theory anyway: I have actively to think about things that are obvious to you): I therefore pick up on everything whether relevant or not as all of it is relevant, there is no filter - it doesn't overwhelm me as perhaps I am used to it and that is how I have always experienced the world, but some autistic people have problems with fluorescent lights, as they can hear the flickering or see flickering that you (and I) can't, or sensory problems and noise and both oversenstivity and undersensitivity - for me, I may hear everything around me (I have no idea how anyone else perceives the world) but it doesn't overwhelm me as my brain can cope with the vast amount of information that it always gets (I don't want to sound pompous or more important when I am not - just that it gets that whilst you probably just get what is, to most people, relevant - namely the body language of the people around you, the precise and only thing that I don't see - so, in that sense, another aspect where what I see, I suspect, is the complete opposite of 'everyone' else or at least opposite of people who don't have an autistic spectrum condition and it affects us all differently).

    I've interpreted people's body language sometimes (two rare occasions I can think of) the complete opposite to what it actually means.

    I have thought there are a number of ways in which Asperger's people seem to be the opposite to those without. Those I have mentioned and there are a few others that I can't at the moment remember off the top of my head what they were. It sometimes results in perception of me as meaning or being the opposite of what I actually mean or am. And there is no way to correct some, or maybe almost all, of it as it is subconsciously perceived by the other person, so they are not even consciously aware that they are perceiving me this way. So even if you'd need to make adjustments to your perception of me, it is impossible for you to do so since you are not even aware of when you have those perceptions so unable to know that you are perceiving in a way that is incorrect or should be adjusted. The ultimate conundrum! I've said before on this thread somewhere - totally non-moneysaving again:rotfl: - that - and I must admit I sometimes get a bit of mischievous enjoyment of this, but I don't do it deliberately (honestly:rotfl:), the world doesn't quite know how to deal with people like me. The "problem" is that I am not outright wrong, don't contravene any social standards and don't break any laws (whilst the vast majority of people do and seem almost never to comply with absolutely every law on every occasion - claim to be law-abiding but the vast majority break the speed limit - Asperger's are about the only ones that stick to the speed limit (which is a dangerous thing to do when 'no-one else' does - I have to pull over into left-hand lanes, when it is safe, to let others wishing to speed pass me)) - there is therefore nothing that society can say is wrong but I am not quite right (according to the way most people behave, in their illogical, inconsistent and rather irrational way - not that I can't be inconsistent at times but I would almost always know it - in other words, not know it all the time and, therefore, inconsistently, sometimes know it and sometimes not:rotfl:).
    Savvybuyer, I need a bit of time to read and digest your post, I am in a hurry to get to work ( I always need to be at my desk at least 30 minutes before start of my shift, being late in intolerable for me.) I will post later when I have sufficient time :)

    Oh, 2nd day for free snack via Subway app if you haven't got them already ;)
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  • elainemn
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