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Ryanair new seating trick

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  • Pollycat
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    JReacher1 wrote: »
    Fair enough. You can’t back up your argument with convincing evidence so you’re deflecting.

    In your position that is all you could have done so well played ;)
    Sorry.
    I didn't realise we were aguing.

    Nor that I had a 'position'.
  • JReacher1
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    Pollycat wrote: »
    Sorry.
    I didn't realise we were aguing.

    Nor that I had a 'position'.

    My apologies it is one of the facets of a debate which I accept you may not understand.

    When two people are debating different positions then by definition they are presenting an argument.

    We are however going off track and I’m now off out for the day so have a good Sunday. ;)
  • If you want to be sure you sit next to someone, pay for it. Simples.

    If you don't want to pay, take your chances or, I appreciate this may be controversial, use another airline!
  • lammy82
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    I don't think it's as simple as 'they are deliberately splitting couples', but I think they are trying to keep sets of adjacent seats available for as long as possible, so that last-minute flight bookers (who pay the most for their seats) will still have a chance to sit together. The effect of this is that people who haven't paid to choose seats will be slotted into the 'single' seats by the algorithm in order to maintain availability of 'couple' seats for those willing to pay for them.
  • I don't get this. Ryanair say "You can have X if you pay for it". Customer says "I don't want to pay for X". Ryanair says "OK". The customer says "Hey, I haven't got X!" Of course you haven't. You chose not to pay for it. What are you complaining about? Yes, they could have given you X, the same way that Tesco could give you a loaf of bread you chose not to pay for. Instead they keep the bread for possible paying customers, just as Ryanair keep seats for possible paying customers for as long as they can.
  • Barny1979
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    Well the example I had was two empty rows of seats, then one row with a girl on, her bf was sat 6 rows in front, I was sat on the row behind my gf even though spare seat next to her
  • dacouch
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    I have just made a number of flights in Thailand, the airlines offered to pay extra for choice of seating. I did not take up their offer but on every occasion myself and gf or myself / gf and her family were all seated together
  • paddyrg
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    They may not deliberately split up couples, but that doesn't mean that isn't a predictable byproduct of a policy to seat people randomly as opposed to making even feint attempt to seat people together. And it's not exactly out of character for RyanAir to invent ways and policies to extract more cash from people to offset subsidised headline fares - that's always been their whole model in fact.
  • Pollycat
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    JReacher1 wrote: »
    My apologies it is one of the facets of a debate which I accept you may not understand.

    When two people are debating different positions then by definition they are presenting an argument.

    We are however going off track and I’m now off out for the day so have a good Sunday. ;)
    Just before I go off too (to have a good Sunday)....
    I think you take things far more seriously than I do, at least in this instance.
    And certainly more than me for you to make this statement:
    JReacher1 wrote: »
    Yes they are. Unfortunately people are idiots and like to see conspiracy in everything.

    It's just a thread where there are allegations that Ryanair are deliberately sitting travelling companions apart.
    Ryanair say they aren't.

    Some people agree with Ryanair, some don't.

    That's really all there is to it.
    Personally, I don't give a toss how Ryanair are allocating non-reserved seats.
    On the routes that Ryanair fly, it wouldn't bother me one little bit if I wasn't sat next to whoever I was travelling with.
    So I wouldn't be paying for specific seats anyway.

    You appear to be of the opinion that I'm in the "Ryanair are splitting people up camp'......:whistle:
  • Pollycat
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    lammy82 wrote: »
    I don't think it's as simple as 'they are deliberately splitting couples', but I think they are trying to keep sets of adjacent seats available for as long as possible, so that last-minute flight bookers (who pay the most for their seats) will still have a chance to sit together. The effect of this is that people who haven't paid to choose seats will be slotted into the 'single' seats by the algorithm in order to maintain availability of 'couple' seats for those willing to pay for them.
    The bit in bold is exactly what Ryanair say:
    A Ryanair spokesperson told Sun Online: "Some random seat passengers are confused by the appearance of empty seats beside them when they check-in up to four days prior to departure."

    They added: "The reason they can’t have these window or aisle seats is that these are more likely to be selected by reserved seat passengers, many of whom only check-in 24 hours prior to departure.


    "Since our current load factor is 95 per cent, we have to keep these window and aisle seats free to facilitate those customers who are willing to pay for them.


    "We are not trying to force people to pay for reserved seats. We are very happy to facilitate any customer who wants a free of charge random seat but we are also going to do our best to facilitate customers who are willing to pay for a reserved seat."
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/3910008/ryanair-passengers-are-more-likely-to-win-the-lottery-than-get-allocated-middle-seats-at-random-on-a-flight/
    It makes sense to me (even though it is from The Sun).
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