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UK Car Park Management try very hard to enable Shedule 4.

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  • bergkamp
    bergkamp Posts: 356 Forumite
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    edited 8 January 2018 at 1:31PM
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/8lim1ctsavqhx12/FORMAL_DEMAND%20REDACTED.pdf?dl=0


    In response to Formal demand;

    Data Protection Act 1998 – Section 10 Data Subject Notice

    I am the registered keeper of the vehicle with registration mark XXXXXXX and received your Notice To Keeper (PCN) number 9999999.
    You cannot use Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 to transfer liability to the registered keeper, as the NTK does not meet the criteria needed to enable the Act.
    I then received your Formal Demand with the same reference number. This stated that you allegedly have the right to recover from the driver the parking charge amount.
    I am under no obligation to name the driver.
    You have been informed numerous times at the two appeal stages that I was not the driver and will not be naming them.
    As a result, there is no legally-enforceable parking charge against me the registered keeper and no justification for you to pursue me. You must now delete all my personal information that you have obtained and hold . Your unreasonable and unlawful demand for payment is causing me significant distress and anxiety.

    I demand that you immediately cease and desist from processing my personal data, except to inform me that you have complied with this demand. Any further processing of my personal data, including demands for payment or passing my personal data to any third party, will be considered harassment and a flagrant disregard of the DPA, which will be reported to DVLA and to your ATA, and may result in legal action against you for compensation or damages, including Exemplary or Punitive damages.

    The DPA requires you to respond to this notice within 21 days to confirm that you have or will comply with my demands, or to explain why you have not or will not comply.
    Hope link works now!


    https://www.dropbox.com/s/mdzw9kcoau7ueyg/UKCPMSection10DataSubjectNotice.pdf?dl=0
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,317 Forumite
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    Looks fine to me, and yep that's a non-POFA NTK, talking only about 'driver' liability.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • bergkamp
    bergkamp Posts: 356 Forumite
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    Received from UKCPM in response to the Section 10 Data Subject Notice;


    https://www.dropbox.com/s/qifw4ihk5gbm5x6/CPM_UK%20RESPONSE.pdf?dl=0


    Will have to wait and see what comes next...
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,601 Forumite
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    Actually, the IAS has not decided that ‘you are liable for the parking charge fee’ - that is a gross misrepresentation by UKCPM and should be the subject of a strong complaint to the DVLA!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • beamerguy
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    edited 19 January 2018 at 7:46PM
    bergkamp wrote: »
    Received from UKCPM in response to the Section 10 Data Subject Notice;


    https://www.dropbox.com/s/qifw4ihk5gbm5x6/CPM_UK%20RESPONSE.pdf?dl=0


    Will have to wait and see what comes next...

    I wonder what idiot from UKCPM dreamed
    that load of rubbish up

    Apart from being a complete scam, the IAS
    are pretend ajudicators and CANNOT tell
    anyone to pay ... ONLY A REAL JUDGE CAN

    Imbeciles proving to themselves they are Imbeciles
    YES complain to David Dunford of the DVLA
    and copy in Sir Greg Knight who is heading
    a private members bill regarding the parking
    industry.
    https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/commons/sir-greg-knight/1200

    By now Sir Greg will already know all about the
    Great Gladstones/IPC/IAS and members SCAM

    Maybe the scam boys at the IAS should tell
    UKCPM to STOP TELLING LIES
  • beamerguy wrote: »
    I wonder what idiot from UKCPM dreamed
    that load of rubbish up

    Apart from being a complete scam, the IAS
    are pretend ajudicators and CANNOT tell
    anyone to pay ... ONLY A REAL JUDGE CAN

    Imbeciles proving to themselves they are Imbeciles
    YES complain to David Dunford of the DVLA
    and copy in Sir Greg Knight who is heading
    a private members bill regarding the parking
    industry.
    https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/commons/sir-greg-knight/1200

    By now Sir Greg will already know all about the
    Great Gladstones/IPC/IAS and members SCAM

    Maybe the scam boys at the IAS should tell
    UKCPM to STOP TELLING LIES
    Steady on beamerguy ... you forgot to mention reporting them to trading standards as well!
    If you were not the driver write to the parking firm and tell them who was so they CANNOT hold you liable. The person who was driving the car is responsible so let them deal with it. Not you! Don’t let people with an agenda tell you otherwise.
  • bergkamp
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    After ignoring the DR+ letters (including the fake Gladdies one), the RK has received an LBC from Gladstones eight days after it is dated;


    https://www.dropbox.com/s/5j9o8ofhsfohhe4/GLADSTONE_LBC_REDACTED-1.pdf?dl=0


    The Pranksters views on the situation prior to the LBC;

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2017/12/is-bryn-holloway-lead-assessor-of.html
  • beamerguy
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    I don't know if Gladstones are ignorant or just plain stupid ???
    Probably both, we do know that Gladstones are highly
    incompetent at the best of times.

    Charging £60 for their clients time etc is simply rubbish
    and is no different to them claiming for use of the
    office printer, paper, uniforms ..... a judge deemed this
    as business expenses which they can reclaim from their
    tax returns and was not allowed as a claim

    You therefore require from Gladstones a breakdown of the
    £60 ...... I MEAN A BREAKDOWN

    If this goes to court, their claim can only be

    £100 parking ticket
    £25 court fee
    £50 solicitors fee
    maybe a bit of interest

    The question to the court is why are Gladstones trying
    to extort an extra amount
  • Umkomaas
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    Standard (but real) Gladstones LBC. To be dealt with as per the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #2, and in conjunction with demanding everything entitled to as per the PaP.

    https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/pdf/protocols/debt-pap.pdf
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • bergkamp
    bergkamp Posts: 356 Forumite
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    Umkomaas wrote: »
    Standard (but real) Gladstones LBC. To be dealt with as per the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #2, and in conjunction with demanding everything entitled to as per the PaP.

    https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/pdf/protocols/debt-pap.pdf

    Draft response in progress and SAR with the DVLA. The RK will be 'going all the way' if need be.... :)
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