Morrisons fresh soups

Manxman_in_exile

BillysBadFurDay wrote: »

sounds like you need to go vegan.

But vegetables have rights too!!!


(Edit: Don't they???)

teddysmum

hollydays wrote: »

I don’t want to stoke the vege versus meat-but it just sounds like you’ve never properly eaten good food like vegetables.

I don’t even understand what you mean like very sweet peas? Or bitter cauliflower?

I’m lucky enough to have been raised being persuaded to try a wide range of food , and I sometimes meet people who turn their noses up at good wholesome food ( which is incredibly bad manners by the way)
My mother was raised in the war when most people didn’t have much to chose from, she just didn’t allow me to “ not like something” she said all food she gave me was good-it was. Money was short and we ate what was put in front of us.
The number of people who screw up theirs faces in restaurants- olives, prawns, any seafood, fish, eggs, mushrooms, any sauce, anything with bits in it, rare meat, rice(!) . Get a grip..

Of course I was brought up on good food (just post war as I'm 68) and do eat vegetables, but surely you know that different varieties of fruit and veg taste different or you taste buds aren't very discerning.


There's a huge difference in taste between a Worcester Pearmain and a Braeburn apple,for instance.


Tiny young peas tend to be very sweet, but I like large marrowfat ones, which are not sweet, having matured on the plant. Sprouts vary hugely in the degree of bitterness, with small frost exposed ones being sweetest. Even a chef friend agrees about the differences in carrots. She doesn't like sweet Chantenay carrots, but like me prefers the larger less sweet ones.

teddysmum

meer53 wrote: »

I just fancied some 'homemade' soup as my husband was having a week off work, so there were lunches to provide.

Surely it would have been quicker to make your own ? It's hardly Homemade if you've bought it from Morrisons, is it ?

I make Chicken Noodle soup (and all my soup) from scratch, it takes about 15 mins.

Hence the quotation marks , but the tubs are more like home made than tinned soups; full of artificial colour and added sugar.


I do have a soupmaker , but wanted something quick with no veg to peel, as this job causes me back pain.

teddysmum

pinkshoes wrote: »

I thought all Halal meat was clearly labelled????

(As if it wasn't, then surely muslims would not buy it?).

I tend to buy only UK meat and nothing labelled as Halal as I find the killing method barbaric.

I would be very annoyed if I purchased British meat that had not been slaughtered humanely!

The labelling was mentioned when the exposure of practices was made, but they said that muslims would buy from their own traditional butcher anyway, so would not need supermarket food labelled; leaving the rest of us to be deceived.

teddysmum

seashore22 wrote: »

I think it's useless arguing with you, but what do you think Morrisons have done wrong exactly?

They said that their meat isn't Halal and it most likely isn't.

In your ignorance you seem to think that anything from abroad is dodgy. That seems to be the implication from your posts or are you trying to wind us up?

No wind up.
Morrisons used to say that all their fresh meat is traditionally slaughtered but that New Zealand lamb was not, adding that they had no control over what processed food manufacturers use (obviously), but their own products were guilt free.


Therefore I have trusted them and not read the labels all the time. The change to imported,though it is in the small print on the pack, following the words 'made in UK' (a tv programme pointed out this when discussing Best of British meals,being made with imported produce).


I've had a reply and they say they had to resort to imported meat due to a shortage of British reared (really ?), but all fresh meat is as promised.


As they have seemed proud of the provenance of their food's origin ,I thought that they should have been clearer in this case.


Of course I don't mistrust all foreign food, but if there is any doubt, I avoid it. There are definitely some cultures with what many would consider extra cruel means of despatch, many being publicised and ones I know nothing about,so I prefer British (I know there's no guarantee as some recent footage proved),where there are known to be (but not strict enough) rules in place.


I emphasise that this has nothing to do with prejudice against religion; just the actual cruel practice excused on the grounds of religion or cost.


I always pay more for free range eggs, too, preferring to buy from locals who look after their small flocks (non-layers kept as pets)

teddysmum

JReacher1 wrote: »

You seem very confused over what halal is.

If chicken comes from Thailand it doesn’t mean it is halal. Morrison’s have stated that they don’t use halal meat in their own products (apart from lamb). Yet you seem to think they have lied to you as they have used chicken from Thailand.

It is nonsensical

It also does not mean that Thai chicken is not halal, as practisers of the method used can live anywhere.


I have not said they have lied, but the meat is not guaranteed as is their own UK produced meat, so the origin should be more clearly marked.

teddysmum

JReacher1 wrote: »

You seem very confused over what halal is.

If chicken comes from Thailand it doesn’t mean it is halal. Morrison’s have stated that they don’t use halal meat in their own products (apart from lamb). Yet you seem to think they have lied to you as they have used chicken from Thailand.

It is nonsensical

I do know what halal means and refer to hang slaughtering as it is this ,not the religious aspect that I abhor. Anyone can say what prayers they like to have forgiveness , but think this (if it exists) will be watered down by the prayers being artificially produced (ie a broadcast recording)


As mentioned in another reply, I have not mentioned lies. (Lies and cover-ups are not the same; the first is to deny what is known to be truth and the latter could just be a failure to comment.)

teddysmum

pelirocco wrote: »

For all those anti Halal ......do you think the meat you eat arrives by lulling the animal to sleep ?If you think non Halal slaughter causes the animals no pain or stress you are sadly mistaken

Indeed our slaughter leaves a lot to be desired and I hate to see the tiered pens of sheep ( oddly seen more than other animals) going to their end on lorries.


I remember a work colleague, who had a post-war job in a slaughterhouse, telling of a cow where the bolt missed the required spot, but he said most of thee time it was quick and the animals' suffering over.


In contrast an unstunned animal (we are told this is not the case,but film shows otherwise), left to hang for some 10 minutes in some cases, bleeding ,writhing in agony and/or terror is far, far worse...yet the government won't do anything about it.

teddysmum

Voyager2002 wrote: »

Secondly, the mention of Thailand is probably a red herring: the label probably used a phrase like "produced in Thailand". What this often means is that British chicken (and other British foods, including British-caught fish) is transported to the Far East for chopping and other labour-intensive forms of processing, and then transported back for sale and consumption.

The opposite as the small print says 'made in UK' then adds about the chicken sourced in Thailand lower down the label.


I also agree about 'our' methods of despatching chicken (hanging by trussed feet before stun) are not good and would pay more for a humane way, but the majority of people wouldn't so things will continue.

RichardD1970

teddysmum wrote: »

I do know what halal means and refer to hang slaughtering as it is this ,not the religious aspect that I abhor.

Just for clarity, can you explain exactly what you understand the Halal slaughter method to be (the physical aspects) and how it differs from "traditional" British slaughter.