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Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

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  • Arklight
    Arklight Posts: 3,183 Forumite
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    Strawman again.

    I believe there will be challenges, but overall it will be better for the country to be in control of it's own destiny.

    How we use that control is a separate matter.

    I don't trust the scare tactic stories. I don't think I need justification for that.

    I believe I have answered all questions put forward. Maybe some of the remainers could now do the same instead of throwing straw men arguments in every second post.

    Challenges for who, Graham?

    Challenges for Pringle eating xenophobes getting up at 11am to watch Jeremy Kyle, or challenges for people who are already engaged in the world and have a mortgage to pay?
  • System
    System Posts: 178,359 Community Admin
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    See link below...

    Dated 18th January 2018 - from David Davis' own department. Nothing to do with Cameron.


    The implication from the report is that overall brexit is net negative i.e. the savings on membership fees are smaller than the costs to the economy.

    This is unwinnable.
    Some kind of faith has developed that it will be OK. This faith is based on nothing except that people who said bad stuff got it wrong, therefore every single prediction of bad stuff must also be wrong, regardless who makes the prediction, in this case everyone.

    There's no experts, no positive reports from anyone that knows what they are talking about, just.... Faith.
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  • gfplux
    gfplux Posts: 4,985 Forumite
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    Here is another Brexit dividend...........for the EU.

    It is not a prediction, not a guess but actual +400 jobs MOVING.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-12/morgan-stanley-ceo-says-bank-will-move-up-to-500-jobs-from-u-k

    As the CEO says
    QUOTE
    Morgan Stanley Chief Executive Officer James Gorman said the bank expects to move 400 to 500 jobs out of the U.K as the nation breaks from the European Union.

    The moves represent as much as 10 percent of the 5,000 employees the bank has in Britain.

    Its big, its meaningful, but its not life changing, Gorman said Tuesday at an event hosted by his bank. Its net negative, theres nothing particularly good about Brexit.
    END QUOTE.

    take comfort from a boss who says it is big but not life changing, except for the +400 people, their familys, and all the businesses that they spend their rather large pay packets in.

    Of course he is an expert so should we listen? Brexiters will not.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • System
    System Posts: 178,359 Community Admin
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    to banks leaving (er, wrong, no one has left)
    Banks including JP Morgan, Lloyds, Barclays, HSBC and Goldman Sachs have already established subsidiaries in other EU countries, or moved part of their business because EU law requires them to be legally compliant from the day the UK leaves.
    10bn dividend.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jun/20/uk-could-lose-10bn-a-year-in-city-related-tax-revenue-after-brexit-mark-boleat?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Sync_Dev

    300bn dividend.
    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/jaw-dropping-300-billion-negative-swing-in-foreign-investment-flows-since-brexit/29/04/
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  • iro
    iro Posts: 1,237 Forumite
    Brexit heroes

    Frank Field
    Kate Hoey
    John Mann
    Graham Stringer

    Suck it up remainiacs you lost (again)
  • Matt_L
    Matt_L Posts: 1,459 Forumite
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    Why so many here attempting to re-fight the referendum??

    We voted to leave, yes some jobs will be lost or moved as many new positions will be created.
    "I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers."
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,944 Forumite
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    Who's attempting to refight the referendum? We've moved on from having lost that to trying to prevent you screwing our kids over.


    I don't recognize a single one of those heroes. Who are they?
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Herzlos wrote: »
    I don't recognize a single one of those heroes. Who are they?
    Probably brexiteers?
    Otherwise they wouldn't be heroes, would they?
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • iro
    iro Posts: 1,237 Forumite
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    Probably brexiteers?
    Otherwise they wouldn't be heroes, would they?

    Nicky Morgan:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::
  • fewgroats
    fewgroats Posts: 774 Forumite
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    "Xenophobes who get up at 11am to watch Jeremy Kyle."

    That would be on at 9.30. Sad that I know.
    Advent Challenge: Money made: £0. Days to Christmas: 59.
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