Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Filo25

Serious question here, how would those who support Brexit on here feel if Theresa May agreed to pay say £40-50bn to pave the way for trade talks to start with the EU?

Arklight

Herzlos wrote: »

And we'll be perfectly capable of rejoining, minus all the perks we're about to throw away. Thanks guys :mad:

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bris

Filo25 wrote: »

Serious question here, how would those who support Brexit on here feel if Theresa May agreed to pay say £40-50bn to pave the way for trade talks to start with the EU?

There is no if's about it, she has no choice.
We are now looking for scraps under the table where once we feasted on the biggest banquet table in the world.


She knows it so you really think we are not getting punished and punished hard for our insolence.

phillw

Arklight wrote: »

That realistically only has to continue for another 10 years before living Remain voters vastly outnumber Leave voters.

I don't think it will take 10 years. Only a percentage of leave voters did so for ideological reasons, another percentage of them did so because of the implanted thought by the leave campaign that £350 million a week would go to the NHS and we could stay in the single market.

When they realise that the bribe they were offered for their vote doesn't exist, their support for leaving will disappear.

This is why everyone is so scared of ever having another referendum about joining the EU. The people who voted to leave want to exert their control over everyone in the UK, until the end of time. They don't like democracy one little bit.

tracey3596 wrote: »

Despite all the assertions of current hardship, cliff-edge-teetering and impending disaster by remainers ALL OF WHICH ARE ALLEGEDLY THE RESULT OF BREXIT your "levels of happiness are in no way defined by Brexit related stuff"?
You see why I have difficulty believing that?
Brexit has certainly not decreased the UK public's general contentedness with life despite the assertions of the pro-remain contingent like yourself.

The results are because of groupthink. The government is doing it's best to reassure the public that everything is going to be fine, because that is their job. How people react to that reassurance is therefore irrelevant, because the reassurance could be false (and from the language they are using, it almost certainly is).

mrginge

Filo25 wrote: »

Serious question here, how would those who support Brexit on here feel if Theresa May agreed to pay say £40-50bn to pave the way for trade talks to start with the EU?

That entirely depends on what the 40-50bn was actually for. If it was for just starting trade talks then that seems a little high lol.
If it was for an accepted and quantifiable settlement of liabilities then that’s a different story.

I assume from your phrasing that you think those who don’t support Brexit would have a different view?

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

And we'll be perfectly capable of rejoining, minus all the perks we're about to throw away. Thanks guys :mad:

Possibly but the vote has been taken and we are leaving and without those perks how many people would vote to rejoin.

phillw

ukcarper wrote: »

Possibly but the vote has been taken and we are leaving and without those perks how many people would vote to rejoin.

The lost perks would be a sunk cost, so it would depend on the economic situation of the time.

Those against having another referendum appear to be scared that a majority would vote to rejoin on those terms.

ukcarper

phillw wrote: »

I don't think it will take 10 years. Only a percentage of leave voters did so for ideological reasons, another percentage of them did so because of the implanted thought by the leave campaign that £350 million a week would go to the NHS and we could stay in the single market.

When they realise that the bribe they were offered for their vote doesn't exist, their support for leaving will disappear.
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This show just how out of touch you are I voted remain but most of the people I know voted to leave I know for sure none voted leave because of the £350 million and have change thier views. I am not so sure I would vote remain again although I never considered voting leave before.

Filo25

mrginge wrote: »

That entirely depends on what the 40-50bn was actually for. If it was for just starting trade talks then that seems a little high lol.
If it was for an accepted and quantifiable settlement of liabilities then that’s a different story.

I assume from your phrasing that you think those who don’t support Brexit would have a different view?

I am actually genuinely interested in what people think and yes it would obviously represent a settlement in terms of liabilities!

I get the impression some think we shouldn't pay a penny while others would like to find a middle way to getting the best ongoing deal with the EU as an independent nation.

Just interested in what the balance of opinion was

Filo25

ukcarper wrote: »

This show just how out of touch you are I voted remain but most of the people I know voted to leave I know for sure none voted leave because of the £350 million and have change thier views. I am not so sure I would vote remain again although I never considered voting leave before.

I think there may be a few signs of public opinion moving in a few recent polls (although of course it may just be noise), but not to remotely the extent that could justify a second referendum so soon after the last one, any government would need to see significant evidence that public opinion had SIGNIFICANTLY moved before even considering that path, and I say that as someone who clearly did not like the result of the referendum!