Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Enterprise_1701C

All you can say from these elections is that it was not the drubbing that the conservatives were expecting. Mid term local elections normally go massively towards the opposition, that has not happened.

kabayiri

Herzlos wrote: »

If Tusk had any involvement in the Remain campaign there would have been outrage at the EU interfering with local politics.
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The separation is fatuous. Being part of a political project you can not separate local and EU level politics in many areas. That's just the reality.

What the EU core agree on will steer the direction of the project. It has manifest implications on every member state.

Turn it around. If the rest of the EU had a referendum entitled "Should we keep the UK in the EU?", do you think our representatives should have been able to argue our case for inclusion? ! I do.

vivatifosi

Ballard wrote: »

It is utterly pointless to look to failure by the Lib Dem’s as a sign that people are less unhappy about brexit. The Lib Dem’s are not exactly a force to be reckoned with and few people take them seriously. It’s like arguing that the anhilation of UKIP means that no one wants brexit any more. Neither statement has any basis in fact.

My ward had a candidate standing against th closure f my local a&e a couple of elections ago and scored a few hundred votes. This doesn’t mean that everyone wanted the department to close.

The Lib Dems have a potential to be kingmakers though. Say parliament falls and we have a GE, per the Sky predictions, the two ways to make government would be either:

Cons + DUP + Lib Dems = 325+, or
Lab + SNP + Lib Dems = 325+

I know that polls aren't necessarily an indicator of what's going to happen, but if we get a hung parliament the Lib Dems are most likely the only party willing to dance with both sides.

Sky was also saying that there are now far fewer floating voters, so coalition is more inevitable.

mrginge

vivatifosi wrote: »

The Lib Dems have a potential to be kingmakers though. Say parliament falls and we have a GE, per the Sky predictions, the two ways to make government would be either:

Cons + DUP + Lib Dems = 325+, or
Lab + SNP + Lib Dems = 325+

I know that polls aren't necessarily an indicator of what's going to happen, but if we get a hung parliament the Lib Dems are most likely the only party willing to dance with both sides.

Sky was also saying that there are now far fewer floating voters, so coalition is more inevitable.

Those numbers tell you exactly why there isn’t going to be a GE.

gfplux

I have seen chatter in the media of two possible opposite courses of action over Brexit.

1) Lack of a plan by Britain and the timetable of the EU there could be an agreement on a NO DEAL in June 2018 would allow both sides and industry to get their ducks in a row for end of March 2019

2) The transition agreement is likely to be extended by 2 or 3 years.

I have seen and heard more about 2) than 1)

We live in interesting times. Has anyone heard these things?

Herzlos

A "no deal" is never going to happen. We'll keep extending the transition period until we agree on something

masterwilde

highly unlikely we can keep extending. They will punish with a no deal to stop others looking to leave.

melanzana

masterwilde wrote: »

highly unlikely we can keep extending. They will punish with a no deal to stop others looking to leave.

I think that is a very arrogant stance.

Why would they keep kow towing to an indecisive UK who have no negotiation skills and no vision.

Thrugelmir

melanzana wrote: »

Why would they keep kow towing to an indecisive UK who have no negotiation skills and no vision.

Making arrangements to leave the country? :think:

gfplux

So I am alone in having seen these to ways forward being discussed in the media?