Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

System

ilovehouses wrote: »

The British public support a second referendum for the first time according to an opinion poll.

I'm fairly certain that if this keeps up "the will of the people" will soon be joining the pile of stuff that "brexit isn't about" along with all the other stuff that brexit was previously about such as immigration and trade deals

System

Rough_Justice wrote: »

Like war, recession, emergency budgets etc. with remainers you mean?
And the "we haven't left yet" comments when we were warned that those would be immediate consequences if we dared to even vote "leave".

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Rough_Justice

The EU has accepted that Britain will not be changing its mind on Brexit and may never return to the bloc after next year’s divorce, a leading European commissioner has said

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/09/eu-leaders-have-accepted-that-uk-will-not-cancel-brexit
:T
Even EU Commissioners accept it; now how about remainers ?

Rough_Justice

The British public support a second referendum for the first time according to an opinion poll.
Originally posted by ilovehouses

Ah yes.
A George Soros-funded "Best For Britain" poll.
Of (gasp) 1636 people.

Definitive, that.
:rotfl:

Rough_Justice

ilovehouses wrote: »

Consider the messenger shot.

We can but dream, though I'm not sure I would go quite as far as shooting.


But talking of shooting, here's another example of the EU shooting itself in the foot.
https://www.ft.com/content/476e6570-3b3b-11e8-b7e0-52972418fec4

mrginge

ilovehouses wrote: »

0.5% - 0.1%. It's a trifling amount - who cares? About the same contribution to GDP as the UK's sewing machine manufacturing industry according to this.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/rule-britannia-britannia-rules-waves-fishing-patriotism-pragmatism/

Silly to try and compare it to pre-EU days. Almost meaningless.

I don’t suppose you know what the govts 15 year impact assessments said about GDP do you?

I seem to remember that it’s about 8% in the worst case scenario?
I’m not clever enough to work out how that translates per year but I’m guessing it comes under your definition of ‘trifling’.

So good news all round then!
#truehorror

cogito

Arklight wrote: »

The UK itself backed the Total Allowable Catch otherwise there would be no cod left now.

Of course we Brits are so incredibly stupid that we would have allowed every last cod to be caught. It's such a good job that we have the EU to show us the way. How many thousands of tons of dead fish have to be chucked back because of the insanity of EU fisheries regulations?

Herzlos

Rough_Justice wrote: »

Like war, recession, emergency budgets etc. with remainers you mean?
And the "we haven't left yet" comments when we were warned that those would be immediate consequences if we dared to even vote "leave".

That old chestnut again. I do find it amusing that you use this to justify everything, as if any of the remainers are defending the remain campaign or the accuracy of the predictions. Yet leavers seem to be unable to criticise any of the leave campaigns, instead resorting to denying everything about them.

Herzlos

Rough_Justice wrote: »

Not according to some remainers it isn't; they insist that the UK will be forced to survive on a diet consisting purely of chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-fed beef.

No one has every claimed that and your straw men are costing you credibility.

If we want a trade deal with USA or Aus, 2 of the big pro Brexit claims, we'll need to legalize lower quality meat, which will make it into our food supply. People can continue to eat local food if they want to pay the price premium.

And to avoid being misinterpreted; I don't want a trade deal with the USA. They do a lot of things in terms of business and quality I don't like, with an unstable protectionist at the helm.
I'd we're going to violate our red lines for a trade deal Id rather we did that to get a good deal with the EU. That's a deal we'll actually need.

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

So are you saying that forming trade deals isn't a justification for Brexit?

Surely even you can admit that having a deal is better than wto?

What terms do we trade with the USA under? You know, our biggest trading partner outside the EU for the last 200 years.