Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

Nothing's been lost in the past few decades. People's lives have been transformed.

Have they. I think many will disagree. The gulf has widened between the haves and have nots. That's indisputable. Hence why there's no discontent with politics in general. From the UK, to the US to Italy. There's enormous resentment. History in part seems to be repeating itself.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

If you and UKCarper are getting excited about being able to buy a house with an indoor toilet and a fridge before we joined the EU then, yes, lives have been transformed since 1974.

Resorting to trolling again. How unexpected.

ukcarper

ilovehouses wrote: »

Nothing's been lost in the past few decades. People's lives have been transformed. Nobody's saying the EU came around fitting central heating and double glazing so your argument is fallacious.

More to do with an extended period of European peace.

Well as someone who left school in 60s I would say things improving dramatically before we joined EU. I would also add that although young people enjoy many things now that I couldn't in the 60s, job prospects were much better when I left school especially for those without a degree. Life is certainly different now compared 60s some of it for the better some for the worse.
I don't think you can attribute the changes to the fact they we were in EU.

Herzlos

Arklight wrote: »

When Scotland, narrowly, voted to remain part of the UK, they didn’t realise that they were about to be dragged out of the EU by a xenophobic Tory government and its supporters.

They were told the opposite by "better together" in that the only way to stay in the eu was to stay in the .uk. !!!314;

ukcarper

ilovehouses wrote: »

If you and UKCarper are getting excited about being able to buy a house with an indoor toilet and a fridge before we joined the EU then, yes, lives have been transformed since 1974.

As I said they were improving before we joined EU and to say the improvements since are due to joining EU is not corrrect.

buglawton

On a strictly economic basis the UK economy improved with the arrival of Thatcher. Maybe globalisation had a bigger effect than EU-isation?

Tromking

Arklight wrote: »

When Scotland, narrowly, voted to remain part of the UK, they didn’t realise that they were about to be dragged out of the EU by a xenophobic Tory government and its supporters.

Gibraltar will be subject to a power sharing agreement of some sort within the next 5 years because the UK will have no other choice other than to offer one.

Brexiters understanding of Northern Ireland is deficient, to be kind.

You ignore of course the losses the SNP had in the last GE to Unionist parties and the fact that Gibraltarians would fight to the death to avoid a power sharing deal with the hated Spaniards. The U.K. will not sell Gibraltar down the river in the Brexit negotiations.
It would be a mistake also to think that a majority vote for Remain in NI is tacit approval by that same majority for an all Ireland customs union and a possible sea border with the rest of the U.K.
You hoping stuff will happen in order to suit your narrative that the country is in chaos, doesn’t mean it will happen.

cepheus

London property prices fall as much as 15% as Brexit effect deepens

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/mar/12/london-property-prices-plunge-as-brexit-effect-deepens

ukcarper

cepheus wrote: »

London property prices fall as much as 15% as Brexit effect deepens

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/mar/12/london-property-prices-plunge-as-brexit-effect-deepens

According to land registry they have hardly fallen and London as a whole is up, but if they have is it a bad thing.

Arklight

Cable speaks as he finds:

Too many older people who voted for Brexit were "driven by nostalgia" for a world where "faces were white," Sir Vince Cable has said.
The Lib Dem leader said the votes of the older generation had "crushed the hopes and aspirations of young people for years to come."
Speaking at his party's spring conference, he said the government's Brexit policy was a "fraud".

You mean Brexit might be a bit, racist?

:eek:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43364331

Surely not...