Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

System

Rough_Justice wrote: »

If you have access it goes on to discuss the DWP data showing that eastern EU migrants receive more in welfare than UK citizens as well as paying less tax, a brief summary of which can be seen below.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5776790/eu-migrants-in-britain-claimed-more-than-4bn-of-handouts-in-a-year/

There's nothing quite like a Sun article and comment section to remind us what Brexit is really all about.

A less misleading headline such as "Average eastern European immigrant earns less than indigenous population" presumably wouldn't have had the desired effect with people like "Leeds ripper"

Leeds_Ripper wrote:

I've got a better idea, kick them all out even if they have kids born here the kids are not British if they are born to even one foreign parent

System

Four_Two wrote: »

Oh you didn't notice that the post said that it was a brief summary of the Telegraph piece for those that don't have access then?
You're just being deliberately disagreeable it seems.

My post is regarding the tone of language used in the Sun article, I assume you don't disagree.

Tromking

Arklight wrote: »

An excellent piece here in the Guardian about the future of Gibraltar.



Little Englanders would do well to try and better understand that Gibraltar and Northern Ireland may be British in name, but those particular plants have very long roots that spread to the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/10/gibraltar-eu-britain-european-union-empire-brexit

Just another load of Leftist post colonial guilt-ridden twaddle lapped up by middle class Remoaners. The drivel you lot are reading at the moment in an effort to assuage the anger at your loss is hilarious.
The story of the U.K. in my life time has been a policy of self determination as regards what’s left of its empire. Gibraltar and NI are free to leave whenever it suits them and such is the self confidence of the U.K. state even constituent nations of Great Britain like Scotland are given a periodic vote on continued affiliation with the rUK. Oh for such self confidence in Spain it has to be said.

Richard_Overton_2911

Herzlos wrote: »

If you want to leave the eu why would you want citizenship? Hypocrisy?

Presumably you'll be easy to spot at ports since you'll be the ones not embarrassed by the blue passports.

I'm just making an assumption but I would wager that in 10-20yrs time if the decision to leave the EU is judged by the vast majority as a success you personally would deny voting remain or admit to accusing those who voted Leave of being elderly racist bigots who sold their kids futures down the river...

Hell would freeze over before I would take up an EU passport.

You keep backing the EU and you will do just fine as one of their "Kapo's" (Funktionshäftling).............

Herzlos

Richard_Overton_2911 wrote: »

I'm just making an assumption but I would wager that in 10-20yrs time if the decision to leave the EU is judged by the vast majority as a success you personally would deny voting remain or admit to accusing those who voted Leave of being elderly racist bigots who sold their kids futures down the river...

Hell would freeze over before I would take up an EU passport.

You keep backing the EU and you will do just fine as one of their "Kapo's" (Funktionshäftling).............

If somehow brexit is a success in 10 years I'll admit being on the wrong side. Just like I can admit I voted Tory once.

I'd much rather have the eu passport from a practical standpoint; it'll let me through more ports more easily. I won't touch a .uk passport unless I can avoid it.

Indulge me. Intrigued about the implication that the EU us like the Nazi party. How does that work?
How come all the far right and nationalist parties are anti-eu?

Herzlos

Four_Two wrote: »

Why does the colour of our passport bother you so much and did you not know that blue is the world's second most popular passport colour?
It is used by the USA and quite a few South American countries as well as Australia, Israel, and quite a few more.
The only ones embarrassed would presumably be those with so much hatred and so little knowledge that they make ridiculous statements about the colour of their nations passports.

It's not the colour that's the problem. It's what it represents; being the only Brexit campaign item that happened.

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Wasn't the EU that bettered and improved peoples lives.

The seamless trade didn't better lives? The imported staff? The shared research?
Or the environmental regulations or safety standards?

Rough_Justice

Herzlos wrote: »

If somehow brexit is a success in 10 years I'll admit being on the wrong side. Just like I can admit I voted Tory once.

I'd much rather have the eu passport from a practical standpoint; it'll let me through more ports more easily. I won't touch a .uk passport unless I can avoid it.

Indulge me. Intrigued about the implication that the EU us like the Nazi party. How does that work?
How come all the far right and nationalist parties are anti-eu?

That's just not true.

German citizens still possess the world's most powerful passport, according to new research, but there's good news for the UK, which has climbed the table from joint eighth to joint third place. The ranking by Henley & Partners, a citizenship and planning firm, takes into account how many countries can be visited without applying for a visa. German citizens can travel to 177 out of a possible 218, up from 176 last year, while Britons can visit 175, up from 173.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/powerful-passports-2018/

https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php

ukcarper

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Life was very different just a 100 years ago. My great grandfather was a docker in Limehouse. Paid when there was work. No work no pay. No state benefits in those days.

Wasn't the EU that bettered and improved peoples lives. But people doing it for themselves. Something which sadly has been lost in the past few decades.

Until 1966 I lived with my parents in old Victorian house with no hot water bathroom or inside toilet, parents didn't have washing machine or fridge, we were not that unusual. Although I left school at 16 many of my friends left at 15. By 1973 my parents had moved and had all of the above and I was buying my own house all before we joined EU.

Arklight

Tromking wrote: »

Just another load of Leftist post colonial guilt-ridden twaddle lapped up by middle class Remoaners. The drivel you lot are reading at the moment in an effort to assuage the anger at your loss is hilarious.
The story of the U.K. in my life time has been a policy of self determination as regards what’s left of its empire. Gibraltar and NI are free to leave whenever it suits them and such is the self confidence of the U.K. state even constituent nations of Great Britain like Scotland are given a periodic vote on continued affiliation with the rUK. Oh for such self confidence in Spain it has to be said.

When Scotland, narrowly, voted to remain part of the UK, they didn’t realise that they were about to be dragged out of the EU by a xenophobic Tory government and its supporters.

Gibraltar will be subject to a power sharing agreement of some sort within the next 5 years because the UK will have no other choice other than to offer one.

Brexiters understanding of Northern Ireland is deficient, to be kind.