Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Backbiter

wunferall wrote: »

When? And why could you not find a reputable source? Given those yes the Express is certainly a more valid and reliable source.

Here's the full clip from YouTube. The extract I linked to on Facebook starts at 1.25, and lasts about 2mins30.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpRZACUQPRI#t=1m25

System

Has it actually come to this? Deliberately confusing "source" with "host"?

System

wunferall wrote: »

No confusion except in your biased stance I suspect.

If sources like Facebook's "Brexit - No Way! Remain in the European Union" are acceptable despite the very obvious bias then so will this be presumably. The content is at least equally as reliable and inarguable as the earlier post you appear to refer to.


http://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit-news-friday-9-march/


Personally I would rather see the thread free of drivel from both sides. Sadly it does to me at least seem to be remainers consistently doing this but this post shows that both viewpoints can provide such material if that is the way you really want to take this thread.

You're still confusing source and host. On purpose, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that. Can you imagine if someone genuinely thought that where the video was posted and displayed somehow altered the content
within it? How we'd all laugh.

Backbiter

Rinoa wrote: »

Bringing you the news you don't want to hear.

It may be biased, but the quotes are still correct. Many EU members are not happy with the EU elite running the show.

David David, before A Parliamentary committee, bringing you the reality of Brexit that he didn't want to admit in the campaign.

gfplux

wunferall wrote: »

If we're resorting to Facebook posts presumably the Express is perfectly acceptable then. The EU has divisions and isn't as united as Barnier likes to pretend it is.

Former Polish minister says more EU countries will vote OUT if Brexit is a success

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/929664/Brexit-news-EU-UK-latest-deal-vote-European-Union-countries-2018-Germany-Italy-election

Please stop shouting. Thank you.

gfplux

wunferall wrote: »

Yet more on EU divisions.
EU cracks: Barnier losing UNITY as these FOUR counties could stand up to 'struggling' bloc

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/929788/Brexit-news-EU-UK-Michel-Barnier-Theresa-May-Conservative-Party-European-Union-Brussels

There you go. Sorry remainers, it looks like your starry-eyed dreams of a content and happy EU-land exist only in your own delusional minds because even within the EU there are many unhappy with the unwieldy bureaucracy which is the EU.

Shouting again. Damages your message.

gfplux

wunferall wrote: »

Here's a reasonably balanced opinion piece from the Guardian.

The shambles of Brexit diverts attention from the EU’s democratic deficit



https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/09/brexit-eu-democratic-britain

A reasonable tone of voice is much better than shouting. Please.

gfplux

A free trade deal will sadly not stop the que of lorrys.
Even on the Calais side.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/08/customs-checks-will-cause-huge-tailbacks-warns-calais-port-boss

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His message to May and Barnier was to;be intelligent; on the economy. At the moment, 70% of food imported comes from the EU. Even if that goes down to 50% after Brexit because of controls, it still needs to flow smoothly; people still need to eat, he said. If there are delays it could end up rotting on the side of the road
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LHW99

Personally I would rather see the thread free of drivel from both sides. Sadly it does to me at least seem to be remainers consistently doing this but this post shows that both viewpoints can provide such material if that is the way you really want to take this thread.

Perhaps a suitable discussion point would be the report by three economists on behalf of the Cambridge Business school, which, for illustration indicates that:
"A major exercise to replicate the gravity model of trade, which forms the core of the May 2016 Treasury report on the long-term impact of Brexit on the UK economy, shows that the model was inappropriately used by the Treasury and exaggerates the negative impact of Brexit on UK exports. The knock-on impact on productivity, which forms a large part of the Treasury!!!8217;s estimate of the impact of Brexit, is much too large and may not exist at all. Other official reports, from the OECD and IMF suffer from similar flaws. Although the flaws are less pronounced, the impact is still in the direction of exaggerating the negative impact of Brexit."
https://insight.jbs.cam.ac.uk/2018/treasury-economic-modelling-is-flawed-say-economists-from-the-centre-for-business-research-cbr/
There are also summaries at
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2018/03/08/how-the-economics-profession-got-it-wrong-on-brexit/
and
http://www.primeeconomics.org/articles/flaky-economics-brexit-trade-and-the-treasury-estimates

The referendum offered a choice between two valid futures for the UK. One of those futures was chosen by a majority vote, and IMO should be supported.

Rinoa

gfplux wrote: »

A free trade deal will sadly not stop the que of lorrys.
Even on the Calais side.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/08/customs-checks-will-cause-huge-tailbacks-warns-calais-port-boss

QUOTE
His message to May and Barnier was to;be intelligent; on the economy. At the moment, 70% of food imported comes from the EU. Even if that goes down to 50% after Brexit because of controls, it still needs to flow smoothly; people still need to eat, he said. If there are delays it could end up rotting on the side of the road
END QUOTE

We'll do whatever we did before 1973. Don't recall any problems back then.