Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

gfplux

Honey_Badger wrote: »

Do you actually read the news articles you post?

1) It's the Cypriot Government in question.

2) in your news article it says:



So there is no Government support for the bases to be closed.

Well that takes the biscuit. A Brexiter not understanding that you don't show your hand before the negotiations start. It would be laughable were it not a serious subject.
I was hoping for some serious comment. Closing the bases may suite the UK Government, it might give some leverage with the USA, It might mean bringing troops back to the UK to support security or the border force, etc, etc, etc.

gfplux

More news from an expert group so can be dismissed or spun how anyone likes.
https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-households-600-worse-off-because-of-brexit/
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"British families are £600 a year worse off because of Brexit, a leading British think tank reported Wednesday.

The National Institute for Economic and Social Research said the economic slowdown and fall in living standards in the U.K. were directly attributable to the decision to leave the European Union."
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This story will be covered by most media today but my link is to Politico.

System

I assume I sent that £600 to the NHS instead?

Arklight

In 20 years most of the people who voted for Brexit will be dead and we will be rejoining the European Union. We may well be rejoining the EU officially well before that. Either case will see us re-enter with a far worse deal than we have at the moment.


The best worst solution to this lunacy is that we have a prolonged transitional agreement that protects free movement and access to the single market in the interim.

gfplux

Joeskeppi wrote: »

I assume I sent that £600 to the NHS instead?

I don't know.
These are the people who did the research.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_of_Economic_and_Social_Research

£600 compares with what it costs to be a member of the EU
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/revealed-much-uk-pays-eu-per-person-every-day-113516877.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb
£143 a year.

Matt_L

mayonnaise wrote: »

Here's another one starting to accept reality.


Things like money and so on. :rotfl:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-davis-brexit-agreement-eu-money-favour-benefit-european-union-select-committee-house-lords-a8029916.html

Ahh desperately clinging to fake news. :rotfl:

gfplux

Matt_L wrote: »

Ahh desperately clinging to fake news. :rotfl:

"David Davis has conceded in front of peers that Britain’s Brexit withdrawal agreement will “probably favour“ the EU."

No wonder the negotiations are going badly as some people including you think Britains chief negotiator is a liar!
Don't you even believe him when he is on TV being questioned by à parliamentary committee?

He certainly fooled Bloomberg
"(Bloomberg) The UK signalled it's preparing to compromise over money in its stand-off with the European Union, as a new round of Brexit talks offered the chance to break the deadlock.

The deal on the divorce terms will probably be better for the remaining 27 EU countries than for Britain on the financial settlement, Brexit Secretary David Davis said on Tuesday. The first opportunity for negotiations to resume will be November 9 for a two-day session, according to a joint statement by the UK government and the European Commission.

"The withdrawal agreement, on balance, will probably favour the union in terms of things like money and so on," Davis told lawmakers in London. "Whereas the future relationship will favour both sides and will be important to both of us.""

Matt_L

gfplux wrote: »

"David Davis has conceded in front of peers that Britain’s Brexit withdrawal agreement will “probably favour“ the EU."

No wonder the negotiations are going badly as some people including you think Britains chief negotiator is a liar!
Don't you even believe him when he is on TV being questioned by à parliamentary committee?

He certainly fooled Bloomberg
"(Bloomberg) The UK signalled it's preparing to compromise over money in its stand-off with the European Union, as a new round of Brexit talks offered the chance to break the deadlock.

The deal on the divorce terms will probably be better for the remaining 27 EU countries than for Britain on the financial settlement, Brexit Secretary David Davis said on Tuesday. The first opportunity for negotiations to resume will be November 9 for a two-day session, according to a joint statement by the UK government and the European Commission.

"The withdrawal agreement, on balance, will probably favour the union in terms of things like money and so on," Davis told lawmakers in London. "Whereas the future relationship will favour both sides and will be important to both of us.""

Has he, could you produce the transcript showing where he said this...

mayonnaise

Matt_L wrote: »

Has he, could you produce the transcript showing where he said this...

Here's the video.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/873701/Brexit-talks-David-Davis-EU-divorce-deal-House-of-Lords

vivatifosi

gfplux wrote: »

Well that takes the biscuit. A Brexiter not understanding that you don't show your hand before the negotiations start. It would be laughable were it not a serious subject.
I was hoping for some serious comment. Closing the bases may suite the UK Government, it might give some leverage with the USA, It might mean bringing troops back to the UK to support security or the border force, etc, etc, etc.

Here's a link to the UK bases in Cyprus. Personally I didn't realise they were that big: 98 sq miles.
Army:
http://www.army.mod.uk/operations-deployments/22728.aspx
Air Force:
http://www.forces.net/news/raf/10-things-you-need-know-about-raf-akrotiri

There was also an issue a while back with asylum seekers washing ashore at Akrotiri, so closing the base would stop that, but given that the bases are used to cover middle eastern operations, unlikely that this is something that the forces will seek to do.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/02/cyprus-refugees-uk-airbase