Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Rough_Justice

phillw wrote: »

I'm not there, but my impression is that the talks are a waste of time with the UK wanting three baskets of cakes and the EU saying no.

So they can reasonably say that time is running out & they are not willing to spend more time talking until the UK changes it's position.

You can't grumble about not talking after refusing to talk.
Oh hold on, you can .......... I have read your recent posts.


WTO Brexit here we come then if that's the case.
At least it'll be quick and we can all move on.

Herzlos

phillw wrote: »

I'm not there, but my impression is that the talks are a waste of time with the UK wanting three baskets of cakes and the EU saying no.

So they can reasonably say that time is running out & they are not willing to spend more time talking until the UK changes it's position.

With both sides sticking to their red lines (which are incompatible) there is not going to be any movement.

Yeah I get the j.impression the eu are leaning on the uk to decide on something, not waste more time on talks that aren't going anywhere because the uk doesn't know what it wants.
I think the eu feel they are wasting too many man hours on this already.

Moby

Theophile wrote: »

I voted Leave because I was told we would stay in the Single Market. :doh:

Daniel Hannan MEP

Owen Paterson MP, Vote Leave backer

Nigel Farage, Ukip leader

Matthew Elliot, Vote Leave chief executive

Arron Banks, Leave.EU founder

Well researched and shows their is no unanimity on Brexit.

phillw

Rough_Justice wrote: »

multiple sock puppets and dopplegangers.

Why would anyone do that?

Rough_Justice

Herzlos wrote: »

Yeah I get the j.impression the eu are leaning on the uk to decide on something, not waste more time on talks that aren't going anywhere because the uk doesn't know what it wants.
I think the eu feel they are wasting too many man hours on this already.

Yeah right.
It takes so many man hours to say "No", "No" ,"No" doesn't it?

Sensible people seem to be of the impression that the EU is not interested in negotiaiing.

Rough_Justice

phillw wrote: »

Why would anyone do that?

Why ask me?
Reading past comments you should ask McHighlander apparently, or Whozit or CrunchyBread or Salad Dressing or .........

Rough_Justice

Moby wrote: »

Well researched and shows their [STRIKE]is[/STRIKE] was no unanimity on Brexit.

Fixed that for you.

Unless you have the current opinions of those people you don't know their opinions on Brexit.
Feel free to post current opinions from these if you have them and before you go there Hannan has been put in the picture by Davis as said earlier.


(Not suggesting unanimity BTW, just demonstrating the fallacy of that thinking.)

phillw

Rough_Justice wrote: »

Why ask me?
Reading past comments you should ask McHighlander apparently, or Whozit or CrunchyBread or Salad Dressing or .........

You mentioned sock puppets and I quoted you, the question was to the room. It wasn't an accusation.

buglawton wrote: »

I!!!8217;m sure that all kinds of doom and gloom were predicted when the vote for women or abolition of slavery were proposed. Luckily arguments of convenience didn!!!8217;t prevent these things from happening.

Luckily it didn't. However using those as justification to do something else entirely is a straw man.

Rough_Justice wrote: »

Unless you have the current opinions of those people you don't know their opinions on Brexit.

It doesn't matter what their current opinions are. If people voted in the referendum based on what these politicians said in the past, then that decision wasn't informed. A lot of leave voters told me they thought we would remain in the single market & wouldn't believe any amount of fact checking, passing it off as project fear.

Rough_Justice

tracey3596 wrote: »

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Neither of you read the link in that post, did you?
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

The "transparency watchdog" is a German MEP objecting to the way Selmayr was appointed.
So our "transparency watchdog" is each and every MP in Parliament, as it should be BTW.
:T

I am rapidly forming the opinion that deliberate misinterpretation by certain remainers is part of a tactic to cause enough ill-feeling as possible in an attempt to close this thread as with earlier iterations which have been closed, hence this being Part 5.

Matt_L

Theophile wrote: »

I voted Leave because I was told we would stay in the Single Market. :doh:

Daniel Hannan MEP

Owen Paterson MP, Vote Leave backer

Nigel Farage, Ukip leader

Matthew Elliot, Vote Leave chief executive

Arron Banks, Leave.EU founder

Now are you going to be honest with everyone and post what they said in its entirety or just the edited bits that make it sound like they meant something completely different..

In fact i shall help you..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Jb-fmFfiU&t=256s