Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

gfplux

LHW99 wrote: »

OK how about -
Primacy of Parliamentary Statute will be restored
Art market won't require a European export license as well as a UK one for art, antiques and collectibles
Key industries can benefit from Government support that is outside the EU state aid rules, if Parliament judges that necessary.

I have added two of your suggestions. I rule that your first suggestion is a little bit like taking back control. Sorry.

A list of areas and industries that may be affected in a POSITIVE way after or during Brexit at 22 February 2018
British Farmers who embrace Mr Gove and his environmental initiatives and receive funds from the UK Government.
Indian citizens easier migration
African citizens easier migration
Chinese citizens easier migration
American Farmers
British flower growers
African flower growers
British Fishermen
Art Market
Industry subsidies

gfplux

LHW99 wrote: »

I don't think gflux asked for examples everyone, Remainer or Leaver, would agree with, for example I happen to disagree with his suggestion that will be affected negatively. IMO Brexit will allow us to purchase outside the EU at lower prices for many things.
He asked for suggestions, these are mine, which I believe will have a positive effect

I think you are right that, Anyone who eats food, is too broad. I don!!!8217;t except food will be cheaper but perhaps the mix might change.

So New list with food removed.
However seven added at the bottom of the list.

A list of areas and industries that may be affected in a NEGATIVE way after or during Brexit at 22nd February 2018

higher roaming charges
Loss of EHIC medical support
British Cancer sufferers
Pet travel
British Students.
EU27 Students.
British Citizens living in the EU27
EU Citizens living in Britain
Belgian confectionary / chocolatiers
Danish pork industry
French agriculture
Spanish agriculture
Italian agriculture.
British Haulage industry
Any British manufacturing using EU components
Any British company with EU customers
Germanys car Industry
Dutch flower growers
Rotterdam Port
Dover already damaged by large numbers of non EU immigrants landing and not moving on. Will be further damaged after Brexit.
Calais already damaged due to large number of non EU immigrants congregating in attempting to gain entry to the UK. Will be further damaged after Brexit
French wine makers
Holyhead Port
People/businesses close to the N Ireland/ROI Border
ROI
Japanese car makers in Britain
British Farmers during the withdrawal of £3 billion a year subsidies.
London Financial business.
Seasonal workers from the old Eastern Europe.
Aviation Industry
Gibraltar
Anguilla
Falkland Islands
Other British Overseas Territories
Big sporting events such as rugby World Cups Due to staffing issues.
Pharmaceutical approval.
Hand car washes

gfplux

Lornapink wrote: »

Quite, and here's another Brexit benefit, this time for the City;

New EU Mifid2 regulations killing City business. Leaving the EU will allow us to restore City trade.

https://semperfidem2004.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/brexits-non-impact-on-the-city-of-london-follow-the-money/

I have added Banking regulation to the list. Thank you.


A list of areas and industries that may be affected in a POSITIVE way after or during Brexit at 22 February 2018

British Farmers who embrace Mr Gove and his environmental initiatives and receive funds from the UK Government.
Indian citizens easier migration
African citizens easier migration
Chinese citizens easier migration
American Farmers
British flower growers
African flower growers
British Fishermen
Art Market
Industry subsidies
Banking Regulation

Rough_Justice

Theophile wrote: »

Already posted.


http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=72799861&postcount=850

How am I supposed to have known that - plus it is relevant considering what was posted.

Rough_Justice

Theophile wrote: »

AfD parliamentarians applauding speech by AfD parliamentarian.
Good find, but not sure what your point is.

You didn't listen to it, did you?
If you had you might realise that it sounds very much like far more people clapping than the number of AfD seat-holders in the German parliament.

LHW99

Falkland Islands

I don't quite follow how the Falklands would be affected in any way by Brexit - their issue is with Argentina wishing them to quietly agree to become a part of South America.
Gibraltar I can understand their worries, although I'm not sure they have had much help from us being in the EU, Spain had still caused them problems from time to time despite the number of Spanish citizens who work there and the EU just looks away, as with Spain / Catalonia.

As far as "Primacy of UK parliament"= "taking back control", it does, although "taking back control" covers three aspects IMO - Parliamentary supremacy, Border / immigration controls based on UK priorities (ie not on FoM) and control of where and in what areas we offer free trade agreements.
You could realistically argue taking back fishing rights is "taking back control"

Thrugelmir

Theophile wrote: »

AfD parliamentarians applauding speech by AfD parliamentarian.
Good find, but not sure what your point is.

Views can transcend political boundaries.

cogito

Lornapink wrote: »

Good. This is what we need, more sustainable immigration (still far too high) which benefits us in so many ways, from rising wages at lower end to more sustainable house building requirement. It also enables Poland to build herself, what's wrong with that or are we Brits so greedy & selfish as to be concerned only with our own development?


I take it life for you was ok before mass immigration became a thing?

I travel regularly in Eastern Europe and know Poland reasonably well. The Poles are very positive about the Brits but borderline racist when it comes to Ukrainians. As Poles have moved to the UK to work, Ukrainians have moved to Poland to fill the gap.

So when Poles move abroad it's great but when Ukrainians do the same, it isn't.

Herzlos

Lornapink wrote: »

Our day 1 argument was that in the end, trade will trump the machinations of Brussels bureaucrats. Of course a very good trade deal will be delivered otherwise key European export nations will be badly damaged AND at a time of having to make up the lost British EU membership fee.


Remain's day 1 mistake was in thinking trade would play second fiddle.

I don't think Remain have ever claimed trade was 2nd fiddle unless you mean to leavers.
We've always maintained trade will trump all, but that the trade May wants violates all of her red lines. One will need to give way and we all know trade will win.
Thus the Brexit we get will be one that nobody wants; it'll make us weaker, cost a lot of money and not yield any of the claimed benefits.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

The EU and the EU Single Market aren't the same thing.

Not judging by the rhetoric last autumn. When it was being suggested that countries needed to join the Eurozone or risk being ignored after Brexit. Though the juggernaut appears to have suffered a couple of flat tyres since then.