Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

LHW99

The NHS is the best health care system in the world - that is official - except for health outcomes- truth.

I would generally agree with that.
My point was that there have been issues with parts of the NHS for many years, and that with an organisation of such a size there may always be. Improvements can always be made, and when your own relative slips through the net it is understandably devastating. However, it is not something to be blamed on any single set of politicians. There has never been a time when everyone received 100% correct care on the instant, and never will be - and that does include private care as well as the NHS.

buglawton

posh*spice wrote: »

My FIL died of a curable (and missed) disease 26 years ago thst should have been picked up.

My mother had carp cancer care and died - that was twenty years ago.

My father was told he had gall stones- he was having a heart attack and was sent home where he died that night. That was 5 years ago.

My in laws have just paid £10k for a knee op for their mum as the wait was too long, why wouldn't they - I know people who've spent £000s keeping their pets alive.

The NHS is the best health care system in the world - that is official - except for health outcomes- truth.


Buy youself some health insurance- you would for your dogs and cats.

NHS gatekeepers also keep us away from tests and diagnosis via difficult and slow access to GPs who need to do a first referral for private treatment. How convenient (for the insurance biz). And there's no such thing as private emergency A&E. Those dastardly Marxist French meanwhile have a system where the creditworthy must contribute a bit of cash every time they access the system. The quality of French health care coincidentally is science-fiction levels above the NHS.

BobQ

buglawton wrote: »

NHS gatekeepers also keep us away from tests and diagnosis via difficult and slow access to GPs who need to do a first referral for private treatment. How convenient (for the insurance biz). And there's no such thing as private emergency A&E. Those dastardly Marxist French meanwhile have a system where the creditworthy must contribute a bit of cash every time they access the system. The quality of French health care coincidentally is science-fiction levels above the NHS.

Very true. Labour threw money at the problem which helped but led to inefficiencies. The Tory solution is to underfund it (but still increase funding) and drive efficiencies (pandering to some of their ilk who want more privatisation).

Unfortunately neither works but if politicians worked together they might achieve something since if there is one thing that unites most of the UK public it is the need for NHS to deliver high quality care.

posh*spice

LHW99 wrote: »

I would generally agree with that.
My point was that there have been issues with parts of the NHS for many years, and that with an organisation of such a size there may always be. Improvements can always be made, and when your own relative slips through the net it is understandably devastating. However, it is not something to be blamed on any single set of politicians. There has never been a time when everyone received 100% correct care on the instant, and never will be - and that does include private care as well as the NHS.

It's all a question of luck tbh. My sil's mum she got great care 3 years ago and survived a heart attack ... Luck that's what you need

posh*spice

buglawton wrote: »

NHS gatekeepers also keep us away from tests and diagnosis via difficult and slow access to GPs who need to do a first referral for private treatment. How convenient (for the insurance biz). And there's no such thing as private emergency A&E. Those dastardly Marxist French meanwhile have a system where the creditworthy must contribute a bit of cash every time they access the system. The quality of French health care coincidentally is science-fiction levels above the NHS.

French health care no better than the nhs tbh - just need to stay alert in any system- but in the end it's pot luck

gfplux

posh*spice wrote: »

French health care no better than the nhs tbh - just need to stay alert in any system- but in the end it's pot luck

Sorry off topic post.

How do you know?, where do you live?

JACKBLACK

posh*spice wrote: »

Blur? is he the guy who left us with a war in Iraq and a £150 billion per annum budget deficit?

Yeh I trust his vision.

The man's a fool.

He's the guy that refused to control immigration on winning the GE in 1997 and didn't build houses.








He's the guy that robbed our kids of a future. Of course, he's too dumb to realise this as he can afford to buy million pound homes for his kids, from all that middle east blood money.

Tromking

gfplux wrote: »

Sorry off topic post.

How do you know?, where do you live?

Perhaps he bases his opinion on something more than anecdotal stories from his French Mrs!

Tromking

Biggest jump in UK productivity in six years announced yesterday. One swallow and all that, but are UK employers beginning to wean themselves off cheap EU labour as a precursor to Brexit?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-5238537/UK-productivity-growth-hits-six-year-high.html

ukcarper

I don’t have any experience of health care in France but if it is better is that surprising as they spend a larger percentage of GDP on health care.

My personal experience of NHS has been, oh has a long term condition and under the previous Labour Government the service improved considerably and we both have had good care over the last 5 years, but recently oh has had a few appointments postponed.