Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Moby

GreatApe wrote: »

There is no poverty in the UK
This is easy to prove all you have to do is look at the tens of thousands of functional people on benefits. I know plenty who don't work at all yet have good tidy clean homes and well behaved children. They are not poor even though their worked income is £0

You then have the liar single mother who go on question time cry that they are starving while the truth is they are 30kg obese have two BIG dogs and run a fake nail artist self employed business. To top it off instead of being villified for being a obese liar she got a job as a regional manager of momentum. I would guess even that is fake my bet is she is still on benefits and works for free for momentum. What a world

You see.... you and I live in different worlds and yet we actually reside in the same country. Through work I see a reality that completely contradicts the picture you paint above. I don't want to start the same old arguments all over again. There's no point and it just results in bans but I must say I don't think I've ever seen our country so divided.

economic

Moby wrote: »

You see.... you and I live in different worlds and yet we actually reside in the same country. Through work I see a reality that completely contradicts the picture you paint above. I don't want to start the same old arguments all over again. There's no point and it just results in bans but I must say I don't think I've ever seen our country so divided.

Divided about brexit sure. Divided between left and right, of course.

But poverty in the UK?? hahahahahahahaaha

Moby

economic wrote: »

Divided about brexit sure. Divided between left and right, of course.

But poverty in the UK?? hahahahahahahaaha

Economic I don't think you have a clue and it's not something to laugh at either:-

https://www.trusselltrust.org/2017/06/29/cutting-edge-research-provides-unparalleled-detail-uk-poverty/

http://www.cpag.org.uk/content/who-lives-poverty

GreatApe

Moby wrote: »

You see.... you and I live in different worlds and yet we actually reside in the same country. Through work I see a reality that completely contradicts the picture you paint above. I don't want to start the same old arguments all over again. There's no point and it just results in bans but I must say I don't think I've ever seen our country so divided.

We are being divided by people like you who insist we have mass poverty and its all the fault of the Tories and the rich pure lies and propaganda. Your side is so blinkered a woman with more than 40-50kg excess fat can go into a TV studio and cry she is starving because she has to feed her kids and two big dogs and once that is done she has nowt left to eat for herself.

This is a great country with high wages full employment lots of freedom and opportunity. Its time people stood up to the lefts propaganda. We have it great and I won't listen to your nonsense anymore.

setmefree2

economic wrote: »

Divided about brexit sure.

I see no division. Everyone I know is well over Brexit and are just getting on with life......

economic

setmefree2 wrote: »

I see no division. Everyone I know is well over Brexit and are just getting on with life......

Well yes of course, our own lives are much more important then brexit. But we are divided in terms of opinion of course, and this is nothing new. that's what i was trying to point out to whoever i replied to.

economic

Moby wrote: »

Economic I don't think you have a clue and it's not something to laugh at either:-

https://www.trusselltrust.org/2017/06/29/cutting-edge-research-provides-unparalleled-detail-uk-poverty/

http://www.cpag.org.uk/content/who-lives-poverty

If Joe Bloggs want to scam the food bank system and is given a questionnaire to fill in, of course he is going to lie and sound desperate.

I don't trust these statistics. They are after all put together by the very same organization that depends on donations.

If you had a truly independent research on this then i MAY consider it but even then it could be biased.

Corporal_Perkins

Arklight wrote: »

Varoufakis loves speaking tours and the sound of his own voice. He’s somewhat quieter on the fact that Schauble offered Greece a €40bn pay off to leave the Eurozone, remain in the EU, and still access development and crisis loans but Syriza didn’t take it because that would have involved them being responsible for Greece’s fortunes, rather than blaming everything on Germany for perpetuity.

I agree with the thoughts of Mark Blyth. He's done some very interesting interviews,seminars on Greece ,The EU and economics in General. He's not a fan of Dr Schauble either and is very good at plain speaking, even Comprehensive educated people like me "get it"...

Here's a snippet but worth watching..I think the last sentence or two should make a few elites stand up and listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwK0jeJ8wxg

The whole interview is below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGvZil0qWPg

Herzlos

economic wrote: »

Hahahaha

850,000 who are stealing my money basically!!

This is why i give ZERO to charity. Unfortunately i have already paid my charity through my incomes taxes which i know i will never get back and is wasted.

We need to get out of this socialist political project called the EU. We would be a far better country if we never joined them in 1973.

I now understand why the Tories are still in power.

I really hope you never have any money problems since I assume you just disappear when you become poor.

I can't fathom that people don't believe poverty is a thing. Must be some seriously sheltered life if your only experience of poverty is benefits street and am overweight woman who doesn't have enough money.

There is a disgusting number of working poor and people who barely live paycheck to paycheck. Must be thousands of them on this forum alone.

However, I can't see us ever agreeing, so I'll just shake my head and move on.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

I now understand why the Tories are still in power.

I really hope you never have any money problems since I assume you just disappear when you become poor.

I can't fathom that people don't believe poverty is a thing. Must be some seriously sheltered life if your only experience of poverty is benefits street and am overweight woman who doesn't have enough money.

There is a disgusting number of working poor and people who barely live paycheck to paycheck. Must be thousands of them on this forum alone.

However, I can't see us ever agreeing, so I'll just shake my head and move on.

I think the problem is the continuous use of relative poverty which in my opinion a particularly bad way of measuring poverty. Obviously there are very few if any people in UK in absolute poverty so a more meaningful measurement of poverty is required.