Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

But they campaigned on a platform of making sure the job was done properly. At least before Farage quit.

Maybe so but LibDems share of vote went down 0.5% from an already low, SDP went down 1.7% and greens went down 2.1% hardly a ringing endorsement.

Tromking

ilovehouses wrote: »

Your view has no precedent over mine. We voted to leave the EU. We both think that must happen. It will.

Veiled threats of a bunch of right wing old farts taking to the streets scares nobody.

Let’s keep it civil, shall we?
Nobody has to take to the streets, a significant number of the 17.4m not voting for the two main parties is enough to end them both as parties of power. In the future peope will vote for parties who are clearly pro or anti EU, it’s an indicator of the divided state of the country, that both Tories and Labour are trying to appeal to both sets of viewpoints and thus far failing.

Herzlos

Is anyone following the events around Belfast at the moment? And seriously thinking that there will be no increase in trouble with a border?

gfplux

LHW99 wrote: »

Difficult, as that also can give up information about customers. One thing that does come to mind is a requirement to use a specific set of materials only available from one obscure (and expensive) EU producer in order to qualify a new product for sale. This material not relevant to the use of the product, or its performance, but effectively creating a closed shop against any other company trying to enter that specific market.

What did your local MEP and your MP have to say about all these restrictions that were holding you back. If they were very important you must have spent a lot of time putting your case.

ukcarper

ilovehouses wrote: »

That hardly sounds too worrisome either. Seems like business as usual where politicians attempt to appeal to all people at all times.

With time Europe policies will just become another part of a manifesto. The last GE wasn't a proxy referendum so I doubt that'll be the case in the future either.

I think the first break point will be when we actually leave the EU next year and there's a world record for the most people releasing a sigh of relief. It's much easier to think about the long term if you don't have to worry about getting the shaft in the short term.

Perhaps it wasn't, but Labour Didn't reveal their true feeling about Leaving EU for fear it would cost them a lot of votes rightly so.

kabayiri

Herzlos wrote: »

Is anyone following the events around Belfast at the moment? And seriously thinking that there will be no increase in trouble with a border?

If I'm honest, no I'm not following events over there.

Why should I?

kabayiri

ukcarper wrote: »

Perhaps it wasn't, but Labour Didn't reveal their true feeling about Leaving EU for fear it would cost them a lot of votes rightly so.

I believe they did try and count the number of MPs supporting a Remain position, but unfortunately gave the counting job to Diane Abbot!

I think she said it was about....Andwew...about 3; or maybe 30; certainly no higher than 300,000..Andwew.
:rotfl:

Lornapink

Herzlos wrote: »

Is anyone following the events around Belfast at the moment? And seriously thinking that there will be no increase in trouble with a border?

What happened to 'we must never give in to terror'?

Lornapink

ilovehouses wrote: »

Veiled threats of a bunch of right wing old farts taking to the streets scares nobody.

Cameron's witnessing UKIP's 4 million voters in 2015 was all it took to bring on the referendum.

A Brino will see millions of Labour, Tory & Kipper coming together as one in one form or another, akin to the populist movements surging through Europe casting dreary, arrogant establishment Centrists aside.

Your complacency is precisely the same causing European centrists having their @a%ses handed to them. Even Sweden's UKIP is now a potent political force.

Arklight

Lornapink wrote: »

Cameron's witnessing UKIP's 4 million voters in 2015 was all it took to bring on the referendum.

A Brino will see millions of Labour, Tory & Kipper coming together as one in one form or another, akin to the populist movements surging through Europe casting dreary, arrogant establishment Centrists aside.

Your complacency is precisely the same causing European centrists having their @a%ses handed to them. Even Sweden's UKIP is now a potent political force.

No it won't.