BBFC - Banned a Video Game!!

N79

Sounds like I would hate the game.

However, on a practical note - you should be able to buy it from the US. Try Amazon.com (as opposed to .co.uk) or any other US site.

There are some advantages to writing things down.

N79

Googlebot_2

First of all I don't mind these games.

1. Virtual Guns don't kill people, people kill people!

2. Violent films have been out a lot longer than games and violence was around then too. (Shocking I know)

3. If you don't like it don't play it, just because you don't grasp the appeal it does not mean its wrong, (e.g., I like good old hard !!!!!!, I would say who doesn't? but we all have different tastes don't we???)

4. it's not just crime going up it's the fact that we know about it more due instant media and news and growing populations due to the open door policy we have in this country.
(Welcome to the UK sir, please complete this benefit form)

5. and this is an important one IT'S A VIDEO GAME!!!!

6. IT'S A VIDEO GAME

And 7. IT'S A VIDEO GAME

if Billy Joe frothing at the mouth decided to disembody someone I doubt it would have mattered if he was watching the tele-tubbies.

My two cents.

Google Bot.

froggy_girl128

dmg24 wrote: »

So over 18's do not commit violent crimes?!! :rolleyes:

I didn't say that. I mentioned the game was 18+ I have seen more violent films than the manhunt game.

superscaper

froggy_girl128 wrote: »

I didn't say that. I mentioned the game was 18+ I have seen more violent films than the manhunt game.

I've read books far more violent and horrific and books don't even have an age classification system. Maybe we should all have a good old fashioned book burning.

b33r

BigDave_Cash_Saver wrote: »

What amazes me is that somebody over 18 can go out and my buy the most disgusting !!!!!! known to man, but can’t buy a video game – They can also drink themselves into a frenzy - Surely double standards on a moralistic front?;)

The one that amuses me is that a 17 year old can get married, have sex, could smoke until last week, can drive a car and can make the choice to sign up and fight for their country. However they can't buy Die Hard on DVD or Grand Theft Auto for their PS2 :rotfl:

MoneyMiser

froggy_girl128 wrote: »

I didn't say that. I mentioned the game was 18+ I have seen more violent films than the manhunt game.

This is very true, you only have to look at the 'SAW' series and the more recent 'Hostel' :eek:

JasonLVC

The BBFC is a non-governmental body tasked with performing a statutory duty of film and video (including digital media) classification.

Therefore, anyone who wishes to release material of a filmic/video/digital nature needs first to pass it through the BBFC who have a set of guidelines as laid down by an Act of Parliment (The Video Recordings Act 1984).

Those guidelines are i) to view material to see if it is conflict with the law of the land (ie, rape scenes), ii) to consider if the material could be harmful for the intended audience (ie, kids play computer games) and the catch all final guideline iii) is the material generally unacceptable to broader public opinion (ie, if it's a current hot potato then it MAY be banned just for that).

From the previews I saw of MH2, it looked like a shabby rehashing with dire graphics and was clearly intended for the under 18 market in the way the marketing for the first game was so aimed at kids.

However, we cannot criticse the BBFC simply becuase they have refused it a certificate, after all, they've seen the game - we have not. Maybe Rockstar cranked up the gore/violence a bit too much this time around. Like films, you can imply sex but not physically see the full on action so to speak - remove the scene - does it alter the films impact?. Could Rockstar remove anything from MH2 without it losing what it fundamentally actually is - which is a killing simulator?.

The BBFC would get a right booting if it passed this, especially as other countries have banned it and console manufacturers, who want to promote a wholesome family image, have also been reluctant to publish it incase it sullies their images (and as all the console are struggling sales wise, they don;t need this round their necks holding them back).

BigDave_Cash_Saver

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BigDave_Cash_Saver

You know what’s REALLY funny about this country? If there is a Controversial program on TV it will get 10m Viewers.

Then we here that people have complained about it – When you dig a little deeper it’s usually about 6 people…….. This is not me being sarcastic, it’s a fact. My point is there are many people unable to mind their own business, if they knew a show would be close to the bone, WHY WATCH IT????:mad: :mad:

They should get a letter back from the BBC with a huge long nose on it.:T

arthurp8

You have to remember that films showing violence are doing just that - showing and insinuating violence.

However videogames of this nature are allowing the player to participate in the violence. There is a big difference between watching something and doing something - and the human impulses that triggers.

I am a game designer myself and love videogames - and loved Manhunt, however I agree with banning this videogame - not because people shouldn;t be able to play it - purely because videogame age ratings are never ever upheld and as such most shops will happily sell 18 rated games to teenagers under 18 - are they really going to turn down 40 pounds? No of course not. Alcohol and fags they can lose their licenses and be fined - videogames? Nobody cares less. If the ratings were upheld by the retailers then the game should be sold - but until then it should be banned. Well done ratings board.